[killaHz]

Manufacturing is a bit of a strong word here... most CIEMs are still handmade (except printing the shells).

The drivers are mostly purchased externally (Noble is one of the few that has proprietary drivers made for them), so the actual manufacturing is rather driver compositions and internal wiring

"Manufacture" literally means "made by hand," even if the modern prevalence of assembly lines and robotic assembly has caused people to form different associations.

 

[mvvRAZ]

"Manufacture" literally means "made by hand," even if the modern prevalence of assembly lines and robotic assembly has caused people to form different associations.

Well yeah, but when companies take their production overseas it's usually in the case of mass-production as opposed to small, hand-made batches - I do agree with you on the definition of manufacture though

 

[Kdash]

Well yeah, but when companies take their production overseas it's usually in the case of mass-production as opposed to small, hand-made batches - I do agree with you on the definition of manufacture though

It would really only be possible for universals to farm out assembly overseas. For customs you can't build to stock like you can with something like a dap. Even if the components are prebuilt the final assembly takes into account the specific ear impression which causes placement issues.

Not something that would be fun to maintain quality in an outsourced assembly method.

 

[killaHz]

Farming production out to cheap-labor countries doesn’t make sense for products that aren’t standardized.

 

[HappyMachine]

My ear impressions got flagged for issues despite me having them done at a popular/reputable audio shop ):

Anyone have similar experiences? I'm going to a local audiologist tomorrow to get new ones... I really hope it's not the shape of my ears or something

 

[Deezel177]

My ear impressions got flagged for issues despite me having them done at a popular/reputable audio shop ): Anyone have similar experiences? I'm going to a local audiologist tomorrow to get new ones... I really hope it's not the shape of my ears or something

Did they specify what the issues were? In my experience, the most common issues you'd encounter when getting your impressions taken would be a lack of insertion depth and an incomplete cymba. Did your impressions match the one visualised on 64's audiologist guide? https://www.64audio.com/img/instructions2.pdf

 

[Zhanming057]

I find it odd that a lot of IEM companies manufacture in the United States such as JH Audio, 64 Audio, Empire Ears and others, while most of the DAP companies are not manufacturing in the United States.

You need someone capable of working on FPGA's and quickly retool boards to do DAP development. The US hasn't had that since the 1980s. It's all in Asia these days.

 

[HappyMachine]

Did they specify what the issues were? In my experience, the most common issues you'd encounter when getting your impressions taken would be a lack of insertion depth and an incomplete cymba. Did your impressions match the one visualised on 64's audiologist guide? https://www.64audio.com/img/instructions2.pdf

I'm actually not sure. I did it with Music Sanctuary who are dealers for 64Audio and do lots of ear impressions for them so I thought I was safe. Thank you a lot for the document, I'll show that to my audiologist tomorrow.

 

[Deezel177]

I'm actually not sure. I did it with Music Sanctuary who are dealers for 64Audio and do lots of ear impressions for them so I thought I was safe. Thank you a lot for the document, I'll show that to my audiologist tomorrow.

Oh, that's strange. I've done a few impressions at MS and they've all been perfect. You probably just need a second attempt. It was most likely just a fluke.

 

[HappyMachine]

Oh, that's strange. I've done a few impressions at MS and they've all been perfect. You probably just need a second attempt. It was most likely just a fluke.

Yeah, I hope so. I'll have to see in a month What sucks is that I can only get information from MS and can't check in with 64audio to track the process.

 

[davidcotton]

Yeah, I hope so. I'll have to see in a month What sucks is that I can only get information from MS and can't check in with 64audio to track the process.

Perhaps something happened in transit and your impressions got damaged as a result?

 

[mvvRAZ]

Yeah, I hope so. I'll have to see in a month What sucks is that I can only get information from MS and can't check in with 64audio to track the process.

Ask your audiologist if they can directly scan them for you. Saved me the trouble of having to ship them and all that back when I was getting mine

 

[Deezel177]

Ask your audiologist if they can directly scan them for you. Saved me the trouble of having to ship them and all that back when I was getting mine

Music Sanctuary have a 3D scanner for their impressions. This service should definitely be available.

 

[mvvRAZ]

Music Sanctuary have a 3D scanner for their impressions. This service should definitely be available.

Ah ok I see, fair enough

 

[mwhals]

Fir Audio will also scan them and even forward the actual impressions to the manufacturer where you ordered your IEM. They then send the file to you.