[ken6217]

No stage with them toed in with the seams at 3 & 9? What do you run them at?

I’m saying if they’re towed out there is no soundstage to speak of. I listen to them with the seams at three and nine, and towed in. I do also listen at 11 and one, and two and 10, but all the headphones towed in.

 

[WafflesID]

Whats the biggest way to improve the mids? SC cable (currently have deluxe cable)? DAC? Power cables and conditioners? I understand how all of this can play a part but I'm hoping to know what the first thing to focus on.

 

[Darkliner]

Whats the biggest way to improve the mids? SC cable (currently have deluxe cable)? DAC? Power cables and conditioners? I understand how all of this can play a part but I'm hoping to know what the first thing to focus on.

Among the things you listed, I would say a DAC would play a large part in improving the mids.

 

[Slim1970]

Among the things you listed, I would say a DAC would play a large part in improving the mids.

Agreed, the DAC/Amp combo is your best bet for improving the mids. For the price of the SC cable you can get a nice R2R DAC or tube amp that suits your needs.

 

[ken6217]

Agreed, the DAC/Amp combo is your best bet for improving the mids. For the price of the SC cable you can get a nice R2R DAC or tube amp that suits your needs.

Where are you shopping? Kmart?

 

[MatW]

Where are you shopping? Kmart?

For 3k you can buy a feliks euforia, a denafrips ares II, and keep some change... The SC is ludicrously expensive. (I own all three.., but the SC is way overpriced IMHO).

 

[Slim1970]

Where are you shopping? Kmart?

You don’t have to break the bank for good sound. Let’s be real here. There are some nice pieces of gear you can get for the price of the the super conductor cable.

 

[ken6217]

For 3k you can buy a feliks euforia, a denafrips ares II, and keep some change... The SC is ludicrously expensive. (I own all three.., but the SC is way overpriced IMHO).

Super conductor cable is 2K, not 3K. For 30K I could buy another Harley, but a SC cable is still 2K.

The conversation was not is the SC expensive. Who’s to say what anything is worth? What something is worth is what you’re willing to pay for it.

 

[jlbrach]

Super conductor cable is 2K, not 3K. For 30K I could buy another Harley, but a SC cable is still 2K.

The conversation was not is the SC expensive. Who’s to say what anything is worth? What something is worth is what you’re willing to pay for it.

spot on, all this stuff is worth whatever people will pay for it and nobody forces anyone to buy anything..if you think it is too expensive simply buy something else

 

[DJJEZ]

if you have a good relationship with your dealer or know the right dealer you can get the SC cable quite a bit cheaper as well lol

 

[MatW]

Super conductor cable is 2K, not 3K. For 30K I could buy another Harley, but a SC cable is still 2K.

The conversation was not is the SC expensive. Who’s to say what anything is worth? What something is worth is what you’re willing to pay for it.

1.8 meters costs 3k. In euros. Your point was you couldn't buy much for that money unless you went to k mart lol..

 

[ken6217]

1.8 meters costs 3k. In euros. Your point was you couldn't buy much for that money unless you went to k mart lol..

My point is that is US$2,000. I can’t picture what tube amp and DAC you can get for $2000 that will sound great.

 

[WafflesID]

Maybe I just need to let these burn in.

 

[tholt]

Where are you shopping? Kmart?

Doubt it since they've all but closed. I don't think they sold DACs or headphone amps besides.

Maybe I just need to let these burn in.

IME these don't need a ton of burn in. I didn't detect any significant change with either the CC or the TC. The mids are the mids. For around 2k I'm sure you could get a decent DAC if you look on the used market. Not so sure about a tube amp. All depends on your budget and tastes obviously.

 

[qboogie]

Again, this is a simple way to remember toe in/toe out.

Again, this is a simple way to remember toe in/toe out.

Thanks for the graphic. I assume the term "Toe-in" is a slight nod to when a person's feet are "pigeon-toed." Cute.