[WafflesID]

I get that too if I toe out too much. It’s a fine line, but worth the effort to find that perfect fit.

I just gotta laugh at anyone who tries to measure these

 

[paradoxper]

Orientated which way? When they are on your head, are the arms angled forward or to the back of your head?

It's compounded. 1-3 o'clock works well with toe-out (to the back of your head) because you open porting towards the front while the earpads couple more to the underside of your ears providing improved comfort.

 

[paradoxper]

That’s the exact same fit I use. That little bit of pressure with the pads on the temples keeps the L/R balance perfect too. And, that bass. Subwoofers in your ear

However, like @paradoxper has said, that leads to the “TC effect,” where all other headphones sound bass-lite. It’s worth that effect though in my mind, but yeah, it really does ruin other headphones’ bass, in comparison

TC is king, baby!

 

[cangle]

Listen to the bass on this track on the 1266......jeez

This is a fun track but its showing the limitations of a dac that I'm using temporarily while the electricity in my house is going on and off due to construction. The dac I am using at the moment is a Rotel RDD 1580. It's fine but the bass extension and texture is not as good as the Pontus and I'm sure there's way more to find with respect to bass in nicer dacs. Can definitely see how if the extension and texture was a bit more clear that this would be an excellent track

 

[ken6217]

To me, it's uncomfortable with the pads against my head behind my ears. I do hear more bass that way, but toed in (angled towards my temples) I find more tonal richness.

This is looking at the front of the headphones and at the seams facing forward as well. I experiment from 1:00 - 3:00.

 

[WaveTheory]

Is that the latest 1266? Sounds like it might be one level back?

I'm not sure what 'one level back' means in this context. The owner's card in the box calls it the 1266 Phi TC. Isn't that the latest?

 

[ufospls2]

I'm not sure what 'one level back' means in this context. The owner's card in the box calls it the 1266 Phi TC. Isn't that the latest?

That is the latest, yes.

 

[joseph69]

Again, this is a simple way to remember toe in/toe out.

 

[ken6217]

Again, this is a simple way to remember toe in/toe out.

Toe in is what I use. Unless I have my pads on backwards (thicker part towards the back), it seems odd to put the part of the pad which is thicker, even closer to your head and move the thinner part (front) further away from thr temple.

I heard different bass, not necessarily more or better bass with toe out, but at the expense of a complete richer sound.

 

[genefruit]

To me, it's uncomfortable with the pads against my head behind my ears. I do hear more bass that way, but toed in (angled towards my temples) I find more tonal richness.

This is looking at the front of the headphones and at the seams facing forward as well. I experiment from 1:00 - 3:00.

Concur. Stage collapsed for me as well and brought vocals too far forward. I'll stay with toe in, 3-9 but I'm glad I gave it a try. The flexibility of fitting is the beauty and the mess.

 

[WafflesID]

I still can't quite get rid of that "paper towel tube" sound. Makes some stuff like Queen really hard to listen to.

 

[cangle]

Again, this is a simple way to remember toe in/toe out.

Thanks for the graphic, I was getting confused so that's very helpful. I use mostly toe out myself as I like the pressure behind my ears since it helps keep the headphones still if I move my head around a bit. I haven't played around with toe-in much as I found the pressure on my temples uncomfortable but will have to try it again. I think putting the headband in the widest position and trying toe in from there might reduce some of the discomfort I had found with toe in previously.

 

[Frankie D]

I'm not sure what 'one level back' means in this context. The owner's card in the box calls it the 1266 Phi TC. Isn't that the latest?

Yes, that is the latest. Tks.

 

[ken6217]

Concur. Stage collapsed for me as well and brought vocals too far forward. I'll stay with toe in, 3-9 but I'm glad I gave it a try. The flexibility of fitting is the beauty and the mess.

There is no real soundstage with this positioning for me.

 

[genefruit]

There is no real soundstage with this positioning for me.

No stage with them toed in with the seams at 3 & 9? What do you run them at?