The FreQ Custom IEMs - Impressions Thread (Updates on First Page!)
May 26, 2008 at 7:52 AM Post #1,981 of 3,960
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I received a pair of Freq Shows this Thursday, 3 days ago. I have spent
several hours a day listening to them, and trying to adjust to them since I
got them. I ordered them after the money I had saved for my UE11 went to
replace a cracked screen on one of our MacBooks. I was curious about the
Freq Show and wanted to see if I was missing anything.

SOURCE: I have tried them with my iMod and my Macbook.

AMPS: I have used the RSA Predator, Headamp Pico, Meier Headsix, and
Headstage Lyrix and PenguinAmp Caffeine.

EARPHONES: I compared them to my Livewires T1, and my second pair of
Livewires T1 that I had my SE530 drivers installed into, which I will call
model T530 (this is not a Livewires Product), and my Q-Jays.

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SOUND: Unfortunately it looks like I will have to send my new Freq Show
back, or at least have them modded/adjusted. The Freq Shows are
practically unlistenable to me because the midrange boost makes my ears
roar and ring. Pianos are especially offending and unbearable, even with
music that I have used as my reference pieces for all my other reviews and
have come to know and love. This occurs even when listening at low
volume levels, and worsens at normal listening levels. EQ'ing down the
mids between 250Hz - 1000Hz by 3-5db, in order to decrease the roaring
and ringing in my ears, also reduces the fullness of the sound (but stops me
from running out of the room screaming, clutching at my ears). The EQ
below is how I have to listen to them with my Macbook to tolerate them, but
sometimes I have to pull out as much as 7-9db at 250Hz. Unfortunately I
cannot do this EQ with my iMod, so I cannot use the Freq Show when
portable/mobile.

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The Freq Show's mids somehow exacerbate a mild chronic tinnitus in my
right ear, so that it's like I am in a loud crowd of people cheering at a sports
event, where the roaring in my ear distorts the sound and resonates within
my ear canal. None of my other IEM, universal or custom, do this to me.
In other areas, the Freq Show bass and treble is similar to LW and nice,
crisp and tight, although the bass is maybe 2-3db stronger in the Livewires.
I believe that if it wasn't for the roaring and ringing in my ears R > L that
the Freq Show would be fairly transparent.

By this Friday (the day after I got them) I had to call Freq about the
problem - I couldn't even live with them for 24 hours. Maybe when Todd
calls me back on Tuesday he will agree to have the cross-over changed and
have them re-dipped for the easily broken seal, rather than issuing a refund.
If that happens I will report back. Otherwise I may be getting a refund and
saving for some UE11pro, or staying with just the Livewires which already
work quite well for me. Most importantly, neither my Livewires nor the
SE530 customs make my ears ring or roar like the Freq (nor do my Q-jays,
or Super.fi 5 Pro).

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BUILD QUALITY: Livewires and Freq Show both seem to be equally well built
- solid with smooth edges and well polished in the right places. The cables
do not want to wiggle loose from the ear-pieces, nor have connectors that
want to come off the cables. With the cable running over the ears,
microphonics are not a problem.

FIT AND SEAL: The Freq Show are also comfortable, but produce a seal that
isn't as isolating as either of my sets of Livewires. I have also found that if
I smile wide, or drink liquids (or even make a face with my eyebrows raised
up high) that the seal breaks easily; but the Freq will re-seal when I relax
my face again. As they re-seal the bass level returns to normal and
isolation kicks in. I can also get a more complete level of isolation if I push
them further in and bite down. But that has NO EFFECT on the bass, mids or
highs - only on increasing the isolation. And, they revert back to a lesser
level of isolation after a minute or two of wearing them, unless I hold them
in place. If I break the seal, the roaring sound I hear while the music plays
actually gets better, but the bass disappears. The best and most stable seal
occurs when I pull the upper part of the right earpiece down and out over
my ear concha, instead of it tucking up inside where it belongs. This levers
the in-canal part of the custom deeper inside the canal, where it stays
better, and even making faces can't break the seal on the right. Still, it
doesn't fix the sound issues, and it is uncomfortable. They also shouldn't be
loose enough to do that (I did open mouth impressions with a bite block).

My first set of Red/Blue Livewires fit me flawlessly, isolate totally, and I
cannot make the seal break no matter how hard I try (to be fair, I did do a
new set of impressions after my first LW arrived too loose and a re-dip did
not help enough). I also have a second pair of Livewires, and have had a
set of SE530 triple drivers installed into them, which I received about 9
weeks ago. After several months of hard work the second pair have been
tuned to sound almost identical to my Livewires, so there is no muddy bass
or rolled off treble left over from the original SE530. The job was difficult,
and not likely to ever be replicated by the people who did mine, nor is it
cost effective since the LW drivers in many ways actually still sound better.
Anyway, back to fit - the fit of my second pair of LW is tighter than my Freq
as well, although I can break the seal R > L on the second pair of LW by
making faces too, although not as easily as with the Freq. And, the natural
seal I get with the SE530 customs is more isolating than the Freq, so I do
not have to push them in to get more isolation. I used 6 month old
impressions for the second pair of LW, but brand new 1 day old impressions
for the Freq Show.

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This is not meant to be an indictment of the Freq Show, as other people may
not have sensitive ears to be disturbed. But even without the roaring and
ringing I am experiencing, I don't imagine the Freq Show doing anything
better than the Livewires, easpecially at an additional $100 in cost. The
Freq Show indeed seemed tuned more for the stage musicians who must
hear the midrange frequencies in their monitors above all else. However, I
chose the music makers and not music lovers because of the reports of
muddy overpowering bass in the SuperFreq, which rendered them dark and
muffled sounding to many. If I liked that kind of sound I would not have
modded my SE530. Yet, with the low midrange boost in these, the Freq
Show become congested to my ears, which ruins all transparency and illusion.

I think the LiveWires offer the audiophile the best of what my recabled
Grado RS-1 and RS-2 have to offer offer, with none of the negatives that
some people associate with Grados. The Livewires are crisp and quick and
detailed with good bass, but are not in your face, brash or piercing. And,
the LW also have a surprisingly deeper and more transparent soundstage to
them than the Grados. I still have not heard a more perfect IEM than the
Livewires T1, which had lead me to sell my Triple.fi 10 Pro after just a week
too (in the Triple.fi's case it was a mid-bass peak that ruined the
transparency for me).

If there is anyone who owns both the Freq Show and the UE 11 Pro, I would
like to hear from you, to know if it is worth pursuing the music lover's
cross-over along with a re-dip.




Thanks for the review HA. I've been waiting for an audiophile who also has Livewires T1, to give a balanced review of the FreQ's.

It's put my mind at rest on a couple of things, thanks!

p.s. Hope they can sort out the roaring and ringing for you.
 
May 26, 2008 at 3:03 PM Post #1,982 of 3,960
Sorry to go a bit off topic here, but could anyone show me where I can see pictures of the different colors? From the FreQ website, I can't find any pictures. Just the choices from the drop down menu when ordering...
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May 26, 2008 at 3:15 PM Post #1,983 of 3,960
the only place u'll be able to see the diff colours would be the 1st post and on freq website, not on the shopping page but on the introduction page of the diff freqs... some various colours..
 
May 26, 2008 at 3:25 PM Post #1,984 of 3,960
Wonderful review HeadphoneAddict, just what I was looking for!
 
May 26, 2008 at 5:40 PM Post #1,986 of 3,960
I have some bad news, my Freqs have been broken. Luckily for me I bought the replacement warranty, but as I checked the website it says that it covers 60% of the original cost. I've searched on these forums to see if I'm remembering this correctly, but it seems to me that when I bought that coverage the amount was higher. Anyone here remember or can find what the coverage amount use to be?
 
May 26, 2008 at 6:46 PM Post #1,988 of 3,960
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Originally Posted by russya /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I have some bad news, my Freqs have been broken. Luckily for me I bought the replacement warranty, but as I checked the website it says that it covers 60% of the original cost. I've searched on these forums to see if I'm remembering this correctly, but it seems to me that when I bought that coverage the amount was higher. Anyone here remember or can find what the coverage amount use to be?


Depending on how it's broken, it can probably be fixed under warranty like fatman said.
 
May 26, 2008 at 7:24 PM Post #1,989 of 3,960
Quote:

Originally Posted by russya /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I have some bad news, my Freqs have been broken. Luckily for me I bought the replacement warranty, but as I checked the website it says that it covers 60% of the original cost. I've searched on these forums to see if I'm remembering this correctly, but it seems to me that when I bought that coverage the amount was higher. Anyone here remember or can find what the coverage amount use to be?


If you're referring to the damage beyond repair warranty, when you bought it, it was 25%, so you should still only pay 25% right now.

I'm assuming you dropped it and stepped on it or something, lol.
 
May 26, 2008 at 8:04 PM Post #1,991 of 3,960
Just booked an apointment! In Montreal, I found a place that will do it for 30$, not sure if it's the best price, but it's close by. I'll also get an hearing test. I want to evaluate if there is any change over 6 month to a year from using IEM.
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May 26, 2008 at 8:13 PM Post #1,992 of 3,960
Based on Larry's review, I am glad that I chose the music lovers crossover for my FreQ Shows. Although there is plenty of bass, I don't find it overpowering, but rather similar to the normal acoustic characteristics of most concert halls.

The seal on mine are what I always had hoped for before, but never had gotten. My FreQs have a BIG sound when I compare them to my Images and Sleeks.
 
May 26, 2008 at 11:42 PM Post #1,995 of 3,960
Yeah, they were broken by my kids. They are demolished. I thought it was 20 or 25 % but on their site right now it states 60% which I'm almost positive is not what I was originally quoted, but they don't send you any paper work with the headphones that states the terms of that warranty. I'm just hoping to get this taken care of since the last time I sent mine in for repair it took almost a month.
 

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