Jun 30, 2015 at 12:50 PM Post #16,276 of 17,520
Yea.. i read about those hardware buttons too. I find it more userfriendly(in my e11k) compared to software based eq in my clip.
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also, one more thing. Is $110 a fair price for a used x3gen1 ?


Sounds good, I have seen it higher. Have mine when it came out and I have used it everyday on the go thrown in back pack and works perfectly.
 
Jun 30, 2015 at 4:13 PM Post #16,278 of 17,520
  The thing is: they are MUCH more efficient than the software EQ that FiiO implemented that does nothing.
 
I keep saying: this is the best FiiO player ever.


Og x3 is indeed a very good player. i loved it for about 2 years. but then I had the chance to buy the 2nd gen for ~ £100. (Special offer.)
And I did not want to keep more than one player, so one of them had to go.
After 2-3 days of A-B listening X3ii came out as a winner. X3 classic has a more "inverse" u shaped sound (higher and lower end tends to die out compared to X3ii), while the 2nd gen is much more linear. Og is much darker, less refined, bassier, more powerful. 2nd gen is brighter, more balanced, much more detailed and refined, more linear, more balanced sound. Overall crispier, cleaner.
 Og is more "old-school" hi-fi experience imho. It is a very good player, and will have its fans for many more years.
But the 2nd gen is a big step up. In almost every way.
 Not to forget, pairing is an important factor when you judge overall sq. Og X3 likes more analytical and brighter headphones. X3ii likes a darker, 'bassier' kind of headphone.
 
Jun 30, 2015 at 5:28 PM Post #16,280 of 17,520
  The thing is: they are MUCH more efficient than the software EQ that FiiO implemented that does nothing.
 
I keep saying: this is the best FiiO player ever.

Comparing it on flat and then putting 62hz up to +6, that is quite easy to notice that it has made a difference the the weight to the lower end bass.
 
It for sure isn't a very effective EQ and yes, the hardware bass and treble is way better.
 
I have seen several people say that they use the software EQ at times and it adds what they want do so it obviously does do something and not nothing.
 
Jul 1, 2015 at 12:34 PM Post #16,281 of 17,520
I love the hardware and software eq.  My frustration is the custom eq setting, which I still have to switch on each time I power up the X3- turn it to another eq setting, then back to custom, and it switches back on.  Suddenly the volume goes down, and the sub-bass I like comes back.  Hoping for an official firmware which corrects this. 
 
Anyone else have this happen?
 
Jul 1, 2015 at 2:49 PM Post #16,282 of 17,520
  I love the hardware and software eq.  My frustration is the custom eq setting, which I still have to switch on each time I power up the X3- turn it to another eq setting, then back to custom, and it switches back on.  Suddenly the volume goes down, and the sub-bass I like comes back.  Hoping for an official firmware which corrects this. 
 
Anyone else have this happen?



The volume does go down because it's not the hardware EQ that enhances it. With software EQ, you'll hear distortion and clipping if the volume goes over the player's threshold.

Not sure about your issue with the custom eq though, sometimes I forget to turn it off despite turning off the X3.
 
Jul 1, 2015 at 3:12 PM Post #16,283 of 17,520
The volume does go down because it's not the hardware EQ that enhances it. With software EQ, you'll hear distortion and clipping if the volume goes over the player's threshold.


Not sure about your issue with the custom eq though, sometimes I forget to turn it off despite turning off the X3.

Don't know how they are doing it but in Sony Walkman players I don't hear any drop in volume level nor distortion when using the equalizer !
 
Jul 1, 2015 at 5:59 PM Post #16,285 of 17,520
Don't know how they are doing it but in Sony Walkman players I don't hear any drop in volume level nor distortion when using the equalizer !


My Fiio X1 does not reduce output when the EQ is turned on. And being Fiio lowest output DAP, it still outputs 10x what a Sony does.
 
Jul 1, 2015 at 8:21 PM Post #16,289 of 17,520
Yes I know that it outs more than Sony I am talking about equalizer and sound enhancements... So according to you the problem of fiio eq is related to X3 only ..


And X5. I guess they hired better programers later on.
 
Jul 2, 2015 at 12:50 AM Post #16,290 of 17,520
As far as I know the X1 is the only player that doesn't drop volume levels when the EQ is engaged. Instead it lowers the max volume output available so to the user it's seamless unless you're listening within 6db of maximum. It would be nice if all FiiO players did this.
 

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