The Fiio X3 Thread.

[Mr Trev]

  To me, they are still way too pricey. They are not yet double the capacity of 128gb cards and they seem to be over 3 times the price. However, I have recently found a 128gb card that works out better value than most decent branded 64gb cards.
 
The Integral 128gb card is available for £24. My Phillips 64gb card was around £16. The 200gb Sandisk card is £84.99 on amazon.co.uk and not much cheaper elsewhere. Each time I double the capacity of the card, I will pay a maximum of double what I did for a card half the size. I reckon it would be quite some time before I get this sandisk card. That is if I ever do. I am just waiting for the Integral 128gb card to come down in price a bit.

Sandisk isn't exactly the most competitvely priced. My Patriot 128gb is currently $45, the Sandisk 128 - $74, the 200gb - $185. I'll agree that the math don't add up and happily give my $$ to Patriot in this case (I've read justs as many complaint bout Sandisk cards failing as any others). I keep wondering what ever happened to Microdia. They were supposed to have 256gb and 512gb card out by the end of last year.

 

[ZMan2k2]

Yeah, the cards aren`t cheap.  $2 bills here in Canada.  But I`m quickly running out of space on my 128Gb card in my X3, got room for maybe 10-12 more albums, then I`m out of room.  I was hoping I could get a bigger card, pay the premium but get a bigger card, and get myself some much needed breathing room on my collection.   I love being able to bring my collection with me wherever, so that`s why I have the whole thing with me in FLAC, and the X3 is the only player I have that satisfies my bass desires with my ASG 2.5`s.  So extra memory will be my next step.

 

[Mr Trev]

  Yeah, the cards aren`t cheap.  $2 bills here in Canada.  But I`m quickly running out of space on my 128Gb card in my X3, got room for maybe 10-12 more albums, then I`m out of room.  I was hoping I could get a bigger card, pay the premium but get a bigger card, and get myself some much needed breathing room on my collection.   I love being able to bring my collection with me wherever, so that`s why I have the whole thing with me in FLAC, and the X3 is the only player I have that satisfies my bass desires with my ASG 2.5`s.  So extra memory will be my next step.

Think about getting one of those SD adapters and using a full size card? I'm sure I've seen 256gb PNY listed for round ~$125 on amazon.ca

 

[McDown]

Think about getting one of those SD adapters and using a full size card? I'm sure I've seen 256gb PNY listed for round ~$125 on amazon.ca

I was looking for 256gb PNY on amazon.ca but the cheapest I could find was $185, so I bought a Patriot LX series for $92.

 

[originalsnuffy]

Anybody have success with those microsdxc to sd adaptors?

I bought one and had no joy with my x3

Could have been the adaptor but I was able to get a very old sd card to work. So I think I had run into a tech limit. If I recall there are two generations of sd cards. My operating theory is that only the first generation would work with what was in hand. I just bailed on the project at that point

 

[ZMan2k2]

I could go with a microSD to SD adapter, but I like my X3 naked, and I'd have to use the silicone case if I got the adapter. I like the idea of FLAC on my X3 using my 2.5s, but what do you think of 320kbps MP3'S? I would gain a ton of space on my 128Gb card, and I'm not sure I would notice the difference?

I just tried with an Adele song, and honestly, I couldn't find a difference. So I'm going to save $200 and convert with dbPoweramp.

 

[TheGiantHogweed]

I could go with a microSD to SD adapter, but I like my X3 naked, and I'd have to use the silicone case if I got the adapter. I like the idea of FLAC on my X3 using my 2.5s, but what do you think of 320kbps MP3'S? I would gain a ton of space on my 128Gb card, and I'm not sure I would notice the difference?

I just tried with an Adele song, and honestly, I couldn't find a difference. So I'm going to save $200 and convert with dbPoweramp.

I have about 4400 tracks on my 64gb card and I still have about 8GB free. There is such a minor difference in sound quality between 320kbps Mp3s and CD quality flacs considering the difference in file size. To me, it is only worth having the odd few 24bit albums and CD quality flacs. if you are wanting to make good use of the space available. When I got my first 24bit album, I think it came as wav files and they were well over 6 times the size that an Mp3 was. I certainly don't think it sound 6 times cleaner than an 320kbps Mp3 but there is a more noticeable difference. It only really makes a difference if the music recording is a very well mastered one in the first place

 

[Mr Trev]

I could go with a microSD to SD adapter, but I like my X3 naked, and I'd have to use the silicone case if I got the adapter. I like the idea of FLAC on my X3 using my 2.5s, but what do you think of 320kbps MP3'S? I would gain a ton of space on my 128Gb card, and I'm not sure I would notice the difference?

I just tried with an Adele song, and honestly, I couldn't find a difference. So I'm going to save $200 and convert with dbPoweramp.

What? Compressing your files? That's what the terrorists want us to do

 
Personally, I prefer aac over mp3. Doing a non-scientific, bag over my head so I couldn't see test, I found that aac sounded closer to lpcm source. The problem with aac however is that the X3 will trip over the genre tags if you use dbpoweramp (as I do)
 
I use a system to decide what should be converted and what should stay lossless. Basically I just do a DR analysis of the files using Foobar. Anything less than 10 gets converted.

 

[nmatheis]

ZMan2k2: Instead of 320kbps MP3, try v0 VBR MP3. I doubt you'll hear a difference and will save even more space. Why use 320kbps during simple passages - or even worse during silent passages. VBR is your friend.

I'd recommend 256kbps VBR AAC over v0 VBR MP3, but I seem to remember that the tiny hiccup you get on gapless tracks is slightly worse with AAC.

In my findings so far with DAPs, FLAC is most likely to be completely seamless, MP3 has a tiny hiccup, and AAC has a slightly larger (but still tiny) hiccup.

Good luck!

 

[nmatheis]

Didn't see Mr Trev's response up there. Must've been posting at the same time. Yes, that AAC genre tag debacle... I thought they took care of that in the final FW upgrade. No?

 

[Mr Trev]

@ZMan2k2: Instead of 320kbps MP3, try v0 VBR MP3. I doubt you'll hear a difference and will save even more space. Why use 320kbps during simple passages - or even worse during silent passages. VBR is your friend.

I'd recommend 256kbps VBR AAC over v0 VBR MP3, but I seem to remember that the tiny hiccup you get on gapless tracks is slightly worse with AAC.

In my findings so far with DAPs, FLAC is most likely to be completely seamless, MP3 has a tiny hiccup, and AAC has a slightly larger (but still tiny) hiccup.

Good luck!

But Nik, silence is the best part. Why'd you want to degrade that?
 
Ever wonder what'd happen if you compressed John Cage's 4'33? Would there even be a file left?

 

[nmatheis]

SUPER LOLZ!!!

Now, how many people are going to rush out and watch that classic Cage composition on YouTube only to return pitchforks in hand?
:wink_face:

 

[Mr Trev]

Didn't see @Mr Trev's response up there. Must've been posting at the same time. Yes, that AAC genre tag debacle... I thought they took care of that in the final FW upgrade. No?

Kind funny how often that posting at the same time thing happens to me.
 
Its possible the 2nd gen players got it fixed, but for the most part no. What I can do is use Musicbee to rewrite the genre tag and all is well. dbpoweramp, mp3tag, proabably others, wrong. I sent a couple files off to Joe to pass on to the engineers

 

[ZMan2k2]

Well, right now, I have dbPoweramp converting my FLAC files to 320kbps MP3'S, and I still have the FLAC files just in case, and for sure on the HDD connected to my home stereo, because that makes a difference to me.

 

[nmatheis]

V0 FTW ZMan2k2!!!