The FiiO X3 Thread UPDATE: Project Back On! Read the First Post for Information.

[Anaxilus]

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Your time was wasted?  What time?  Time spent reading this thread? 

Yes, I think Jude has vouchers where you can file a claim for that.  He's probably out though and can't print them fast enough.
 

 

[qusp]

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Honeycomb can output digital, since it has the API Level for USB Host and USB Accessory. Samsung has somehow backported it, since Gingerbread doesn't have the API for USB OTG. If Google put at least API Level 12 on Ice Cream Sandwich, will be possible to output digital audio from USB.

 


icecreeaam saaandwich drool......
 

 

[stozzer123]

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Right you are. I thougt it wasn't fair the way you were treated for making that comment. But it was a valid comment none the less. I also saw this comming and people really shouldn't be surprised. I would have been more surprised if this thing actually happened. It would have been great, and I would have been one of the first buyers. But after so many delays and excuses I pretty much saw the writing on the wall. Also, rockbox would be a great idea. It would have been an even greater idea than the firmware fiio tried to go with imo since it's proven. But I wouldn't get too excited about that happening either even though that's what should happen.
 

agree with everything you sad, anyway just ordered another fuze and will rock it with the zo........until the next great hype that is
 

 

[lee730]

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agree with everything you sad, anyway just ordered another fuze and will rock it with the zo........until the next great hype that is
 

Fuze original or Fuze Plus? If its the Fuze plus did they ever fix the lag issue when you have loads of music on it. That is was killed it for me and I sold it. Other than that though the new one even sounded better than the old version and I think if they make a line out cable for it it even has more potential

 
 

 

[FoxSpirit]

I heard the Fuze Plus caught quite some flack, something was not so well received. Browse the forums.
 
But fellow X3 awaiters, what should I get now? A Clip+? Something better that won't break the bank? Preferably without hard treble, I get enough of that from SGS-II.

 

[wacko]

just when a 64GB microSD is available...
 
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile1-memory-products/sandisk-ultra-microsdxc-card

 

[lee730]

Nice. Will have to wait till this drops less than $100.00 though. That thing is in no way worth $200+ lol but then its always that way on release. $80 to $90.00 would be a fair settling price. Would be nice if it was even lower lol. They probably put a few dollar to actually making it in all honesty.
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just when a 64GB microSD is available...
 
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile1-memory-products/sandisk-ultra-microsdxc-card

 

 

[ClieOS]

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Personally, although I liked the idea of android very much, the power android requires to function smoothly is not ideal for the X3. ...

Actually no. The Android adapted to the future FiiO DAP will be a very basic version of the OS. It is there to provide an OS to run the music application and handle all the I/O, not so you can play Angry Bird. To do that, all you need is 300MHz processor because that's all Android needs for its basic function. A processor like that is actually not that uncommon - companies like Samsung and Qualcomm, etc, all have specific lower power processor designed to do just that. Even Sansa Fuze has ARM9 processor that run up to 250MHz. I am using Galaxy Ace right now and the Adreno 200 CPU has a separate core (out of the 800MHz ARM11 main processor)  just for handling music and basic cellphone function. I listened to over 1 hours of music and the battery barely dropped 1%.

 
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very very sad news, yes please talk with rockbox,...

I can tell you right now RB is not going to go onto X3, even if FiiO wanted it to. The binding contract between FiiO and the supplier means that FiiO will not be able to get its hand onto the source code. Without the basic source code, it will be a very hard time for the RB team to get started especially since the processor is unique to the supplier (no pin out or I/O info available)
 


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Cmon its not like we didnt see this coming a mile off,  personally i called vaporware about 80 pages back and got lambasted.

Personally i feel they just wasted a whole lot of peoples time with this.
 
Anyway, i await another lambasting for this comment too.

 

They also wasted a lot of money and resource. 10k controller chips were ordered when the project started, now they have no software to use it. Not to mention over 6 months of R&D.
 
Here is part of a discussion I had with James about 2 weeks ago. He went to meeting with the supplier the next day to keep track of progress. In fact, I think he told me the company went to meeting with the supplier almost every week or two over the last few months. Do you think they don't want X3 to happen? It just reached a point where James doesn't want to risk the company name anymore on an unreliable suppler.
 

 
 

 

[lee730]

Too bad to hear this. Control is always the issue. The supplier is what is holding fiio back from making a good product. So is the firmware maker. Too bad fiio couldn't have exclusive rights and then they could truly make a good product.
 
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Actually no. The Android adapted to the future FiiO DAP will be a very basic version of the OS. It is there to provide an OS to run the music application and handle all the I/O, not so you can play Angry Bird. To do that, all you need is 300MHz processor because that's all Android needs for its basic function. A processor like that is actually not that uncommon - companies like Samsung and Qualcomm, etc, all have specific lower power processor designed to do just that. Even Sansa Fuze has ARM9 processor that run up to 250MHz. I am using Galaxy Ace right now and the Adreno 200 CPU has a separate core (out of the 800MHz ARM11 main processor)  just for handling music and basic cellphone function. I listened to over 1 hours of music and the battery barely dropped 1%.

 

I can tell you right now RB is not going to go onto X3, even if FiiO wanted it to. The binding contract between FiiO and the supplier means that FiiO will not be able to get its hand onto the source code. Without the basic source code, it will be a very hard time for the RB team to get started especially since the processor is unique to the supplier (no pin out or I/O info available)
 


They also wasted a lot of money and resource. 10k controller chips were ordered when the project started, now they have no software to use it. Not to mention over 6 months of R&D.
 
Here is part of a discussion I had with James about 2 weeks ago. He went to meeting with the supplier the next day to keep track of progress. In fact, I think he told me the company went to meeting with the supplier almost every week or two over the last few months. Do you think they don't want X3 to happen? It just reached a point where James doesn't want to risk the company name anymore on an unreliable suppler.
 

 
 

 

 

[shotgunshane]

Well I hope some of their contract monies was tied to deliverable dates, so they can recoup.  Dealing with contracted programming can be very cumbersome from my experience in the publishing world.

 

[stozzer123]

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Fuze original or Fuze Plus? If its the Fuze plus did they ever fix the lag issue when you have loads of music on it. That is was killed it for me and I sold it. Other than that though the new one even sounded better than the old version and I think if they make a line out cable for it it even has more potential

 
 

Fuze original mate, using it with the digizoid zo (looking forward to the v2 with volume control so i can use LO),  paired with the pfe's and srh480's (selling the hje900 soon) its a great sounding portable rig.

Got a refurb off of the bay for £18 stuck rockbox on it with cabbi v3 blue theme and away i go .

 
 

 

[qusp]

like i said, the legal team., perhaps you didnt read my next post.
 
hang on, so the supplier of the 10000 chips who could not deliver will not release the source code? so what exactly did fiio pay for? they have supplied them with nothing, they could not deliver the product, or the software, what use are the chips?they have also caused some davage to fiios reputation, or at least this could be claimed. to me this sounds like fiio has multiple avenues to get some development cash back.

 

[Varley]

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like i said, the legal team., perhaps you didnt read my next post.
 
hang on, so the supplier of the 10000 chips who could not deliver will not release the source code? so what exactly did fiio pay for? they have supplied them with nothing, they could not deliver the product, or the software, what use are the chips?they have also caused some davage to fiios reputation, or at least this could be claimed. to me this sounds like fiio has multiple avenues to get some development cash back.

x2 - Wasted a lot of Fiios time; trust, money, rep (if you like) and ultimately let them down. Go Fiio, get your own back!!

 

[lee730]

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like i said, the legal team., perhaps you didnt read my next post.
 
hang on, so the supplier of the 10000 chips who could not deliver will not release the source code? so what exactly did fiio pay for? they have supplied them with nothing, they could not deliver the product, or the software, what use are the chips?they have also caused some davage to fiios reputation, or at least this could be claimed. to me this sounds like fiio has multiple avenues to get some development cash back.

Exactly. I'd sue them or give them an ultimatum. Release the Source code and give Fiio the rights to use it as they will. This would then allow Fiio to use another source such as Rockbox and come to market with their product.

 

[moodyrn]

It seems to me that their contract would be voided since they didn't deliver on their end. A contract works both ways. If they can't recoup their monies or exclusive rights then something else must be going on here.