[BloodyPenguin]

Sony DRZX701IP for $50: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005MIIZ3E/

..

 

[sujitsky]

  Just wanted to throw in there that this has pretty much been my experience since getting into head-fi a couple months ago.  I'm very amused.  :-D

lol

 

[Buddhahacker]

   
I posted a very nice write up on this issue with lots of specifics that a Mod fancied deleting in a previous "deals" thread, so I'll just give a short answer:
 
Sometimes the manufacturer will honor it. 

I have purchased several headphones and other devices from Amazon Warehouse and had no issues returning items.  I also was able to obtain warranty service on one item.

 

[Jawmare]

But here's Senn blatantly selling the same headphone with a warmer sound for more with success. Not everyone is going to like it, I get that part but the pricing and sound and build...

I think it is more to the marketing, imo Sennheiser is much better than Beyerdynamic when it comes to ~brand awareness~

 

[Soundsgoodtome]

 
I think it is more to the marketing, imo Sennheiser is much better than Beyerdynamic when it comes to ~brand awareness~

Which is probably why it might be awhile 'til my first set of Senns.

 

[Zombie_X]

Interesting... I guess the warm signature being the more favorable sound is true if people pay a premium for it. This is if course considering full retail pricing.

 
I've found many people prefer an overly warm tone, like the HD650, but sometimes a headphone can be too warm. The HD650 is one of those headphones. The super smoothness and rolled treble hurts detail and sense of energy/speed. The rich midrange masks some detail and sounds bloated and a little congested to my ears. The bass is strong and well, not so good. It's bloated up and looses some control in the lower notes.
 
But I am a person who also enjoys a rich tone, after all I own the HD600, X1, L1, and K601. The HD650 to me is a downgrade in terms of performance, price, and sound signature. I vastly prefer my X1 to the HD650 and HD600, that should tell you something.

 

[zerodeefex]

Interesting... I guess the warm signature being the more favorable sound is true if people pay a premium for it. This is if course considering full retail pricing.

I've found many people prefer an overly warm tone, like the HD650, but sometimes a headphone can be too warm. The HD650 is one of those headphones. The super smoothness and rolled treble hurts detail and sense of energy/speed. The rich midrange masks some detail and sounds bloated and a little congested to my ears. The bass is strong and well, not so good. It's bloated up and looses some control in the lower notes.

But I am a person who also enjoys a rich tone, after all I own the HD600, X1, L1, and K601. The HD650 to me is a downgrade in terms of performance, price, and sound signature. I vastly prefer my X1 to the HD650 and HD600, that should tell you something.

The second you upgrade your source and amp, both HD6xx pull away from the X1 quite a bit. It's ridiculous but I actually swap the HD650 in on my EC2A3 MKIV on occasion. I'd prefer the HD600, but both are technically superior to the X1. On a modest setup, the X1 sounds good but it's resolution capped far earlier than the HD6xx cans.

 

[MarcoGV]

 

But here's Senn blatantly selling the same headphone with a warmer sound for more with success. Not everyone is going to like it, I get that part but the pricing and sound and build...

Doesn't exactly work like that: Sennheiser set the prices accordingly to the perceived sound quality. I never heard anybody saying the hd598 sounded better (who knows). The engineers have enough expertise to know how a headphone should sound or the frequency response they want to accomplish.

There are several comparisons of the HD598 and HD600 in which the HD598 is preferred.  One is http://www.headfonia.com/hd600-and-hd598-comparison/. I am not claiming that the HD598 are better, just that it is not that unusual for them to be preferred to the HD600 or HD650.

 

[KG Jag]

Grados from J & R:
 
SR 60i for $55:
 
http://www.jr.com/grado/pe/GRA_SR60/
 
RS 2i for $350:
 
http://www.jr.com/grado/pe/GRA_RS2/

 

[KG Jag]

Also from J & R:
 
Sennheiser HD 558 for $120:
 
http://www.jr.com/sennheiser/pe/SEN_HD558/
 
The Bowers & Wilkins P3 Headphones Black for $142:
 
http://www.jr.com/bowers---wilkins/pe/BNW_P3BLK/

 

[KG Jag]

T1 from Amazon & third party seller Prime beginning under $900:
 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0031RD3YY

 

[bigbenrfan99]

  New Beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium 250 Ohms on Amazon from a third-party seller for $230 + shipping: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000F2BLTM/ref=sr_1_2_olp?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1397527431&sr=1-2&keywords=dt880&condition=new

This is still available, and the seller lowered the price to $200 + shipping: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000F2BLTM/ref=sr_1_2_olp?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1397527431&sr=1-2&keywords=dt880&condition=new

 

[xanlamin]

I'm not sure if I can post this but I'm selling the DT990 (600 ohms) at rock bottom price at the FS thread but I didn't get any enquiry which is very strange...

 

[PETEREK]

That is an awesome price for those, especially in mint condition. If I had the funds..

 

[Stillhart]

I'm not sure if I can post this but I'm selling the DT990 (600 ohms) at rock bottom price at the FS thread but I didn't get any enquiry which is very strange...

I can vouch for him being a great seller too. /thumbs up