The Centrance HiFi M8 thread
Oct 15, 2013 at 8:17 PM Post #3,751 of 5,999
  Yeah, it seems that the ipod touch 4G will stay on OS 6x unfortunately.
 
I should have sprung extra for the touch 5G (I bought it cause I didnt want to purchase another custom cable-lightning).


I'm sure you could find a buyer for the 4G these days. There are plenty of people with the same mentality - they don't want the lightning port. I'd imagine you could sell it for almost what you paid for it.
 
Oct 16, 2013 at 5:32 AM Post #3,754 of 5,999
My iPod touch 4G 64 GB will not upgrade beyond 6.x. No cck as far as I am aware. Is this verified Bo others?

 
Only 5th gen iPod Touches can run IOS7.  And IO7 is the only way for iPods and iPhones to use the CCK for audio.  iPads could do the trick before the update...
 
Oct 16, 2013 at 6:19 AM Post #3,755 of 5,999
From the ios7, iPhone and Apple CCK thread:
 
2 weeks, 1 day ago



 
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+1, just tested my m8 with 5S and it works perfectly through cck. Seems a lot of people will be buying the lx now unless the bulk of the cck cable is a worry.
Someone will build an all in one by combining the cck & a short usb cable to take that out of the equation though. Probably should have got the LX!
P.s. hifim8 is killer






 
 
Maybe I'll look into a 5ht gen ipod touch then...
 
Oct 16, 2013 at 7:27 AM Post #3,756 of 5,999
  So is the HifiM8 fully balanced from the DAC output signal onwards, or is it partially balanced (convert single ended DAC line level signal to balanced signal via a (differential?) balanced amplifier)?

Yes, good question.  And thank you Mr.Goodman for the ongoing clarifications. I am eager to understand this whole balanced / single-ended mystery. . .  
 
Oct 16, 2013 at 11:42 AM Post #3,758 of 5,999
One of my posts should have mentioned what could be done to make a simple CCK cable without the bulk in between

http://www.head-fi.org/t/682222/ios7-iphone-and-apple-cck/105#post_9850779

And there are plenty of quality parts available for making DIY cables

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18252858498

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18356217827

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19528329504

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19733294860

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19996857560

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=20193805682

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=20875115523

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=24799736353

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=27488216785

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=35272090998

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19051326054

How do we draw something simple to explain what we're trying to accomplish and then ask someone to do that? If such CCK-capable cables were successful for both 30-pin and lightning connectors while being right-angled on each side, it should be feasible to make something similar for the upcoming Sony Walkman models as well.


It would be awesome if a custom cable from Lightning-to-mini USB plug or Lightning-to-micro USB plug could be made. Right now, the best one can do with off the shelf parts looks something like this:



The DAC shown is the batteryless HRT microStreamer.

Edit: For the HiFi M8, a Lightning-to-USB (full size) plug would be needed.
 
Oct 16, 2013 at 1:00 PM Post #3,759 of 5,999
Any working cck should be able to be torn down with the appropriate usb cable attached instead of the female jack on the adapter. The main issue, as always, is making sure whatever digital circuitry necessary for the iDevice to recognize the cck is there.

I'd take a crack at it, but I don't own an iDevice and don't have $30 to burn if it doesn't work.
 
Oct 16, 2013 at 4:10 PM Post #3,760 of 5,999
One of my posts should have mentioned what could be done to make a simple CCK cable without the bulk in between

http://www.head-fi.org/t/682222/ios7-iphone-and-apple-cck/105#post_9850779

And there are plenty of quality parts available for making DIY cables

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18252858498

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18356217827

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19528329504

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19733294860

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19996857560

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=20193805682

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=20875115523

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=24799736353

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=27488216785

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=35272090998

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19051326054

How do we draw something simple to explain what we're trying to accomplish and then ask someone to do that? If such CCK-capable cables were successful for both 30-pin and lightning connectors while being right-angled on each side, it should be feasible to make something similar for the upcoming Sony Walkman models as well.


I've been talking with Peter at Double Helix cables and he's going to take a crack at it. I'll keep everybody posted.
 
Oct 16, 2013 at 4:22 PM Post #3,761 of 5,999
The fact that the input connector is toslink and not coaxial really makes me sad 
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Oct 16, 2013 at 10:31 PM Post #3,762 of 5,999
Just got my M8 (IOS version XLR) today and I can play from my computer through the USB fine and with the CCK out of my iPad mini/iPhone 5 with no issues.  I can't play anything out of my iPod Touch 4G or iPod 5.5.  I have updated all of my iOS devices but not sure why 30 pin devices won't work?
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Oct 16, 2013 at 10:39 PM Post #3,763 of 5,999
  Just got my M8 (IOS version XLR) today and I can play from my computer through the USB fine and with the CCK out of my iPad mini/iPhone 5 with no issues.  I can't play anything out of my iPod Touch 4G or iPod 5.5.  I have updated all of my iOS devices but not sure why 30 pin devices won't work?
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 
No current dock or device will allow digital out from older Apple devices. You need a newer iPod like the current 7th gen iPod Classic or any current iOS device. 
 
Oct 16, 2013 at 10:49 PM Post #3,764 of 5,999
that would explain it.  Thanks for the help.  I guess an upgrade is in order now.
Do you know if the iPod Touch 4G will work then?
 
Oct 16, 2013 at 11:04 PM Post #3,765 of 5,999
  Just got my M8 (IOS version XLR) today and I can play from my computer through the USB fine and with the CCK out of my iPad mini/iPhone 5 with no issues.  I can't play anything out of my iPod Touch 4G or iPod 5.5.  I have updated all of my iOS devices but not sure why 30 pin devices won't work?
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The ipod touch 4G works, thats what I am using.
Try another cable (Your apple usb 30pin cable), some of the Centrance cables were faulty.
 
Also make sure your hifi-m8 on/off switch is to the RIGHT for ipods :wink:
 
*ipod 5/5.5 wont work.
 

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