The Beyerdynamic DT250 Thread
Jun 19, 2013 at 1:42 AM Post #436 of 1,049
DT770LE is not nearly as good as the dt250-250. Boomy midbass and thin mids are the name of the game when you think dt770LE


Okay thanks thanks for the input. Would you say the 80 ohm dt250 is more like the hd650? How's the sound stage? Are the differences between the 80 ohm and 250 ohm that stark?
 
Jun 19, 2013 at 2:16 AM Post #437 of 1,049
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DT770LE is not nearly as good as the dt250-250. Boomy midbass and thin mids are the name of the game when you think dt770LE

 
 
So, I'd hope that means the DT250-80 is also better.
 
Jun 19, 2013 at 7:16 AM Post #438 of 1,049
The dt250-80 is more musical and probably better overall for me but it may be a toss up for the majority since they are a little dark sounding. With the dt250-250, I would say that if they were playing at the same time with the 770LE I am willing to bet that the majority would choose the dt250-250
 
Jun 19, 2013 at 7:21 AM Post #439 of 1,049
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Okay thanks thanks for the input. Would you say the 80 ohm dt250 is more like the hd650? How's the sound stage? Are the differences between the 80 ohm and 250 ohm that stark?

The 80 ohm dt250 may even be a little darker than the hd650. The differences between 80 and 250ohm models are just as much as when comparing the hd600 and the hd650. The other difference though is that the 80 ohms bass tends to be a little muddy whereas the hd650 isn't muddier than the hd600.
 
Jun 19, 2013 at 7:25 AM Post #440 of 1,049
The 80 ohm dt250 may even be a little darker than the hd650. The differences between 80 and 250ohm models are just as much as when comparing the hd600 and the hd650. The other difference though is that the 80 ohms bass tends to be a little muddy whereas the hd650 isn't muddier than the hd600.


Does the 250 ohm version have good bass impact? Does it sound thin compared to the 80 ohm? I had the Soundmagic HP100 and thought they were boring and they they were very neutral so I'm worried the 250 ohm will be the same.
 
Jun 19, 2013 at 7:37 AM Post #441 of 1,049
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Well, I guess all I can do is give the DT250-80's a shot! If they don't work out, I'll just go back to the M50. I read the Headphone impedance article and it says the headphone impedance should be 8x or more the output of the amp. The output impedance of my stereo receiver (Technics SA-200) is around 8 ohms, I believe. I'd think the headphone jack would be around the same. The crazy thing is, when this receiver was new, most headphones had an 8 ohm impedance!
 
The reason I got the DT250 is because I returned my M50 under guitar center's pro coverage extended warranty plan for dried up and crappy ear pads. It's crazy that they only last a year. I decided I'd give another brand a shot so I went with the beyers which have the velour and are made in Germany. BTW, does anyone have pets? Does pet hair stick to the velour?
 
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Just playin' around with frequency response graphs and I found two other headphones that have nearly identical sound signatures; Sony - MDRv6 and the MDR-7506
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Sony headphones, especially MDR V-series and 750x-series can be very hit or miss.
 
My first headphone was a V6. Ever since spikey sounding headphones are big no no. The CD900 ST is more recommendable. Open headphones with a hint of extra treble are okay.
 
Jun 19, 2013 at 8:19 AM Post #442 of 1,049
I found the Sony MDR-V6 to be painful to listen to - treble quite piercing.
 
The Beyer DT250-80s were my main headphones for ages. It's been a while since I used them, but I don't think they have that much in terms of soundstage or "wow" factor. They don't do anything particularly wrong, but they are a bit dark and lack sparkle in treble which I really like now. However, I could wear them for hours and really get into music without worrying or caring about anything.
 
I didn't really get along with the DT250-250 (which I bought afterwards since I liked the DT250-80 so much), but I didn't give them that much time either.
 
Jun 19, 2013 at 9:33 AM Post #443 of 1,049
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Does the 250 ohm version have good bass impact? Does it sound thin compared to the 80 ohm? I had the Soundmagic HP100 and thought they were boring and they they were very neutral so I'm worried the 250 ohm will be the same.

the dt250-250 can sound thin if they are underpowered... or if coming straight from bass heavy cans but on their own they are fine. Bass is comparable in volume with hd600s.
 
Jun 19, 2013 at 12:24 PM Post #444 of 1,049
Yikes. Sounds like I more than likely won't like the sound of the DT250-80 as I came from Audio Technica ATH-M50's which I consider to be a more neutral to slightly bright highs.
 
Jun 19, 2013 at 6:43 PM Post #446 of 1,049
the dt250-250 can sound thin if they are underpowered... or if coming straight from bass heavy cans but on their own they are fine. Bass is comparable in volume with hd600s.


I'd be powering them with a Just Audio AHA 120 so that that should easily drive them. Would you describe the 250 ohm as lively?
 
Jun 19, 2013 at 6:57 PM Post #447 of 1,049
I have actually heard the Justaudio AHA120 with the dt250-250. It was a midcentric sounding pairing. I wouldn't characterize the beyer as a particularly lively headphone. I would put them in the bracket of headphones that I would call "composed". They are still slightly brighter than neutral in the lower treble but sound slightly dry in the topmost "air" region. This is a small caveat and is a smaller gripe than I have vs all the other closed headphones I have heard before I got them.
 
Jun 19, 2013 at 7:00 PM Post #448 of 1,049
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I have actually heard the Justaudio AHA120 with the dt250-250. It was a midcentric sounding pairing. I wouldn't characterize the beyer as a particularly lively headphone. I would put them in the bracket of headphones that I would call "composed". They are still slightly brighter than neutral in the lower treble but sound slightly dry in the topmost "air" region. This is a small caveat and is a smaller gripe than I have vs all the other closed headphones I have heard before I got them.

What about the 80 ohm variant? Would that be livelier?
 
Jun 19, 2013 at 9:52 PM Post #449 of 1,049
I got my DT250 today. I opened em up and gave them a good listen for about 5 minutes and noticed the left ear is a lot boomier (looser bass) than the right ear. Ignoring the unbalanced bass, I really like the sound of them. Unfortunately, gotta ship em back and wait for another one to come. Gawd dammit!!! 
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Jun 20, 2013 at 1:17 AM Post #450 of 1,049
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I got my DT250 today. I opened em up and gave them a good listen for about 5 minutes and noticed the left ear is a lot boomier (looser bass) than the right ear. Back to the shop they go. Gawd dammit!!! 
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aww, thats really too bad... what did you think of the general sound signature otherwise compared to your previous headphones?
 

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