[Nic Rhodes]

I have thought about a WA5 but have a few issue wrt 6SN7s driving a 300b so the case is still out on this one. 6SN7s is not the best tube to do this job. I come at this from a tube point of view and is the reasn I love the 6SE. I collected many 'suitable' tubes years ago, I love the concept of the 6SE for tube rolling, it is a gem. One day perhaps Jack will do an 8se with 6BL7GT / 6BX7GTs  I use both high impedance and low impedance planars so the variations make sence. The 6SE has the power and drive all (I use 6EM7GT, 5AR4 metal base) for every phone. The WA2 has the delicay and finese for certain types of music. (I have GEC 6AS7G, Mullard EZ81 and Mullard CV2493 (low noise selected 6922 for you from the other side of the pond! We call them E88CC-01s here and yes it is quieter than the standard 6922 / E88CC). I am just getting to grips with this amp now....The WA22 has seen the most rolling so far. I think the GECs are best but use 5998 routinely (and occasionally 7236) with a 596 rectifier with adapter and numerous series of 6SN7GTS (currently 7N7s and 6F8Gs). Each has it own character and is quite music dependent. I also have other amps and plans for several more in the near future...but re Woo, I thought one might be my favourite but use different ones with different moods, music, wine....

 

[ardilla]

So - what's the main differencies between the WA22 and the WA6SE? 
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I have thought about a WA5 but have a few issue wrt 6SN7s driving a 300b so the case is still out on this one. 6SN7s is not the best tube to do this job. I come at this from a tube point of view and is the reasn I love the 6SE. I collected many 'suitable' tubes years ago, I love the concept of the 6SE for tube rolling, it is a gem. One day perhaps Jack will do an 8se with 6BL7GT / 6BX7GTs  I use both high impedance and low impedance planars so the variations make sence. The 6SE has the power and drive all (I use 6EM7GT, 5AR4 metal base) for every phone. The WA2 has the delicay and finese for certain types of music. (I have GEC 6AS7G, Mullard EZ81 and Mullard CV2493 (low noise selected 6922 for you from the other side of the pond! We call them E88CC-01s here and yes it is quieter than the standard 6922 / E88CC). I am just getting to grips with this amp now....The WA22 has seen the most rolling so far. I think the GECs are best but use 5998 routinely (and occasionally 7236) with a 596 rectifier with adapter and numerous series of 6SN7GTS (currently 7N7s and 6F8Gs). Each has it own character and is quite music dependent. I also have other amps and plans for several more in the near future...but re Woo, I thought one might be my favourite but use different ones with different moods, music, wine....

 

[jc9394]

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I have thought about a WA5 but have a few issue wrt 6SN7s driving a 300b so the case is still out on this one. 6SN7s is not the best tube to do this job. I come at this from a tube point of view and is the reasn I love the 6SE. I collected many 'suitable' tubes years ago, I love the concept of the 6SE for tube rolling, it is a gem. One day perhaps Jack will do an 8se with 6BL7GT / 6BX7GTs  I use both high impedance and low impedance planars so the variations make sence. The 6SE has the power and drive all (I use 6EM7GT, 5AR4 metal base) for every phone. The WA2 has the delicay and finese for certain types of music. (I have GEC 6AS7G, Mullard EZ81 and Mullard CV2493 (low noise selected 6922 for you from the other side of the pond! We call them E88CC-01s here and yes it is quieter than the standard 6922 / E88CC). I am just getting to grips with this amp now....The WA22 has seen the most rolling so far. I think the GECs are best but use 5998 routinely (and occasionally 7236) with a 596 rectifier with adapter and numerous series of 6SN7GTS (currently 7N7s and 6F8Gs). Each has it own character and is quite music dependent. I also have other amps and plans for several more in the near future...but re Woo, I thought one might be my favourite but use different ones with different moods, music, wine....

 
That is exactly my concern jumping to WA5 too, I wanted it so bad and it does sound great when I had it in my house but it is my concerns on 6SN7 driving 300B tubes.

 

[ardilla]

^ what's the deal with the 6SN7 and the 300B ?

 

[Nic Rhodes]

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^ what's the deal with the 6SN7 and the 300B ?

simply not the best tube for the job, there are many better one for this roll. I will write some more 22 vs 6se thoughts later when I have time.

 

[MrTechAgent]

Fantastic review.
I am in a really terrible situation I have the 650's and really love them, but I only have the STX and luckily enough I have tested it out with amps like conductor,wa2 and black cube out of these the only one which fits in my budget (Free shipping) is the wa2  black cube I can't get a authorized seller .
Want to get the best  out of the 650's which are forced to be dull with my STX.
Will get a wa2 next year after my exams

 

[Dubstep Girl]

get WA6-SE, i think its better with 650s. really good if u can get a 596 too.

 

[ardilla]

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Fantastic review.
I am in a really terrible situation I have the 650's and really love them, but I only have the STX and luckily enough I have tested it out with amps like conductor,wa2 and black cube out of these the only one which fits in my budget (Free shipping) is the wa2  black cube I can't get a authorized seller .
Want to get the best  out of the 650's which are forced to be dull with my STX.
Will get a wa2 next year after my exams

Thanks
 
The WA2 is really smooth with the HD650. If that is what you are after, then get the WA2. If you want the HD650 to be snappier, then the WA22 or probably WA6SE (which is of similar layout) will suit you better. I haven't heard the 6SE but I have reasans to believe it sounds more like the WA22 than the WA2. Actually, the WA6SE is a bit more powerful. Doesn't matter for the HD650, though

 

[MrTechAgent]

Thanks for the reply,
I will see if I can audition both myself

 

[ardilla]

That's always the best  
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Thanks for the reply,
I will see if I can audition both myself

 

[Nic Rhodes]

I think the 650 work best on the WA2 with the GEC  output valve. This makes the WA2 really sing, I prefer it over the 6SE in this combo. The WA22 with the GEC is okay also
 

 

[Dubstep Girl]

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I think the 650 work best on the WA2 with the GEC  output valve. This makes the WA2 really sing, I prefer it over the 6SE in this combo. The WA22 with the GEC is okay also
 

 
i really want to get a pair of GEC tubes soon, just to finish maxing out my WA2 for T1/HD800
 
 i never bought WA22 because i didn't want to lose the WA2 magic and didn't know how much of an improvement over a WA6-SE it would be, or not. (at the recent meet i went to, one of the guys who heard my WA6-SE said he preferred his th-900s on my WA6-SE than when he had WA22)

 

[MrTechAgent]

Thanks.
I will probably buy the wa2 as the 650's are not going to be my final pair of headphone.
And as of the tubes I will see while purchasing the 2's or will buy custom one's after a year of use.
Thanks for the constant recommendation's

 

[jc9394]

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I think the 650 work best on the WA2 with the GEC  output valve. This makes the WA2 really sing, I prefer it over the 6SE in this combo. The WA22 with the GEC is okay also
 

 
Not sure which GEC you are talking about but the GEC 6AS7G is the best sounding power tube with WA22 especially if you are using HD800.

 

[ardilla]

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Not sure which GEC you are talking about but the GEC 6AS7G is the best sounding power tube with WA22 especially if you are using HD800.

I think it's the GEC 6080 - which will fit in both the WA2 and WA22 as power tubes