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Aug 13, 2017 at 4:47 PM Post #1,141 of 36,093


The R1 is unlike any other universal in ear monitor available on the market today.

Tuned to perfection using IMR's custom 13mm Ceramic hybrid driver unit. With its specialist hi-res ceramic driver combined with a beryllium 13mm dynamic driver with powerful neodymium motors for a huge soundstage and precise instrument placement and with a FR from 14-40000Hz to cover the whole audible range of audio.

Unlike other manufacturers using ceramics in this market that require high power to drive their units ours only needs 32 Ohm!

However the R1's abilities do not stop there! The R1 also incorporates a switchable open and close port on the rear on the in-ear monitor to allow to you change the staging and shut off the outside world when required. In addition the R1 is supplied with 5 audio filters to allow you to tweak the tuning to your individual style. These audio filters allow you to alter bass levels, treble levels and increase midrange as required.

SPECIFICATION:

13mm driver featuring Neodymium motors with beryllium diaphragm + Ceramic driver
IMR Open and close porting system
5 Audio filters
2 Pin detachable cables
Impedance: 32 Ohm
Sensitivity: 108 +/- 3DB
Frequency response: 14 - 40000Hz
24ct Gold plated 3.5mm Jack
1.4M length OFC cable
Hard Case
6.5mm Adapter
Huge selection of ear tips for the perfect fit

That driver configuration is quite impressive and apparently it is now really doable. It is very interesting to see what Bob can do with such driver(s)..
 
Aug 13, 2017 at 4:57 PM Post #1,142 of 36,093
That driver configuration is quite impressive and apparently it is now really doable. It is very interesting to see what Bob can do with such driver(s)..

It does look very interesting and I'm glad he's on here...also I'm glad he (you if your reading) cleared a few cobwebs about pre-order and leaving trinity for his reasons which he hinted on.
Fills a bit more confidence bob!
So all in all its looking promising, would of been nice to been able to ask questions on it but as he said cant rustle headfi feathers/rules.
Hopefully the website will throw up a few more details.
 
Aug 13, 2017 at 5:04 PM Post #1,143 of 36,093
It does look very interesting and I'm glad he's on here...also I'm glad he (you if your reading) cleared a few cobwebs about pre-order and leaving trinity for his reasons which he hinted on.
Fills a bit more confidence bob!
So all in all its looking promising, would of been nice to been able to ask questions on it but as he said cant rustle headfi feathers/rules.
Hopefully the website will throw up a few more details.
I felt the thing holding bob back was trinity. But he needed the money. But now hes back for the attack!
 
Aug 13, 2017 at 5:40 PM Post #1,144 of 36,093


The R1 is unlike any other universal in ear monitor available on the market today.

Tuned to perfection using IMR's custom 13mm Ceramic hybrid driver unit. With its specialist hi-res ceramic driver combined with a beryllium 13mm dynamic driver with powerful neodymium motors for a huge soundstage and precise instrument placement and with a FR from 14-40000Hz to cover the whole audible range of audio.

Unlike other manufacturers using ceramics in this market that require high power to drive their units ours only needs 32 Ohm!

However the R1's abilities do not stop there! The R1 also incorporates a switchable open and close port on the rear on the in-ear monitor to allow to you change the staging and shut off the outside world when required. In addition the R1 is supplied with 5 audio filters to allow you to tweak the tuning to your individual style. These audio filters allow you to alter bass levels, treble levels and increase midrange as required.

SPECIFICATION:

13mm driver featuring Neodymium motors with beryllium diaphragm + Ceramic driver
IMR Open and close porting system
5 Audio filters
2 Pin detachable cables
Impedance: 32 Ohm
Sensitivity: 108 +/- 3DB
Frequency response: 14 - 40000Hz
24ct Gold plated 3.5mm Jack
1.4M length OFC cable
Hard Case
6.5mm Adapter
Huge selection of ear tips for the perfect fit


Still like the raw mechanical look of this , as i said great looking design bob probably the best i have seen you do.
I would take the look of this over hunter, pm6 , master anyday.
 
Aug 13, 2017 at 6:55 PM Post #1,146 of 36,093
That driver configuration is quite impressive and apparently it is now really doable. It is very interesting to see what Bob can do with such driver(s)..


One of a number of things I like about this design is that it is similar to the Atlas as far as the way I see it fit. Or the way I place it in my ears. Hopefully longer filters will be available to help fit more people.
 
Aug 13, 2017 at 7:41 PM Post #1,147 of 36,093
I'm presuming the p2 will be more whole market/consumer friendly?? The P1 was pretty awesome
That's what I was thinking when I saw the P2 as well. With the cheaper material build, but claims of keeping the sort of detail and clarity of the P1, I'm thinking they intend to add a bit more bass quantity while trying not to mess with that sound signature too much. The P1 was very light in bass and would never appeal fully to the majority of consumers for that exact reason. As great of an IEM I personally thought it was. Loved that shell shape too, it was very comfortable.

Interesting, Where did you see the Impedance and Sensitivity ? Must have missed that post.
Even 20-20K means nothing.... Without a frequency curve, or +/- db level it does not even begin to help anyone understand the sound in any way...
Trinity was SO Qualitative with descriptions, that personally I will never place an order again with such poor information again.
Actual listening reviews by experienced 3rd party testers would be best !
Check back to the post made by @AverageDude on page 72. I think they said they got that info from the company's FB page. In addition to that frequency response range, they wrote 32 Ohm impedance and 108 +/-3dB sensitivity (which I assume was measured at the standard 1mw).


Not exactly talking shop with Bob here :wink:, but I hope that the filters on these new R1 IEMs are longer and a little narrower and that the nozzle angle relative to the shell is a bit more perpendicular than the Trinity Audio IEMs. Those were probably the 3 things that most negatively affected the fit with my Hunters.
 
Aug 13, 2017 at 8:30 PM Post #1,148 of 36,093
I've been listening to Opus#1 since last night and it's a nice upgrade from the X5II + E12A stack. The screen does feel like it's straight from 2007 but that doesn't bother me, it's a nice throwback to the days when nobody next to you could see what's playing on your laptop screen :stuck_out_tongue: cool thing is when you turn the screen off it goes black and white while it's dimming out, I actually like that a lot, you can see all your album art in B&W :upside_down:

The interesting part is that I'm using 105/150 on High Gain on the #1, 82/120 on X5II on Low Gain, and maybe 35% of the volume put on Low Gain on the E12A. For a DAP that's significantly larger that's a surprise, but I guess if I ever need more volume I'll just get a balanced cable :wink:

To be honest with you I'm not quite sure if the metal version is worth the extra cost, one of the metal SD slots is off by a fraction which makes getting the card out MacGyver worthy. When you slide the case on it doesn't even matter what it's made of since 95% of the player is covered. Whether the upgraded amp is actually of noticeable difference I can't tell you either. If I did it again I'd just purchase the plastic version for sure, and if it weighs less in plastic that would be a bonus as well.

I do have to say that I love the buttons on it, you don't hit anything accidentally as you slide it in and out of your pockets. The domed back of the player makes it more natural looking in your coat and pant pocket and it looks like the corners won't wear into your clothes since it's padded, you know, the 4 light colored corners on your jeans from daily use. The case is sturdy slick "leather" so it slides outta your jeans super easy by just pushing up on the bottom of the player.

The UI seems pretty decent, I'm pretty basic so I'm just happy that I can navigate the menus quickly and without lag. But it does have a feature I think is pretty cool, when you change the volume it comes up with a screen that has a bar on it which you can drag up and down with your fingers to quickly get a big volume delta, you know when you get a vinyl rip sometimes that's significantly quieter than the rest of your files. Not quite a volume knob to twirl around but not bad at all :raised_hands:

Sound wise I couldn't be happier for a daily rig. Everything is smooth across the board, the X5II has sometimes boomy lows and synthetic sounding highs on the Lyra II with odd but minute (yet systematic) sibilance with silicone tips, they really amplify the DACs short comings hence why I only used the provided foamies per CAs recommendation. I switched to my M/L spiral dots today mid-day while listening to the #1 and the sound opened up quite nicely, it sounds a little less like a recording studio and a little more like a live venue. What makes this a great daily combo is that the highs are recessed enough that you don't get fatigued but the treble extension is still very audible and provides a good amount of detail, and the lower end drowns out ANY outside interference.

Just FYI, I get a really good seal with the spiral dots, they're hard to pull back out of my ear and "pop" on their way out. I hear more distinct timbre with the foamies, but the dots have a larger soundstage with more separation/layering at the expense of some mids but with really clean cut highs. It really feels like going from listening to a band in the recording studio, to listening to them practice while you sit in the middle of the staircase in their first floor brick-walled apartment.

Overall this combo may not instantly wow you, but the longer you listen to it the more it grows on you and you learn to appreciate its laid back but atmospheric sound signature. Very forgiving, lots of foot tapping and head nodding, will take a back seat while you're trying to focus but will also pump you up enough to give you the drive to focus.

That's all I got for now :v:
 
Aug 13, 2017 at 8:43 PM Post #1,149 of 36,093
Hey all what do you think I should go for next!
Andromeda or Opus #2.

I learned my lesson and only buying daps from reputable sellers only from now on unless headfi user sells.
Not worth not having a case or something missing. or opened box claimed as new.

What about the i5? If you like that player and its volume twirly knob then I'd jump on the Andromeda. I could go for another sweet review :raised_hands:

That's what I was thinking when I saw the P2 as well. With the cheaper material build, but claims of keeping the sort of detail and clarity of the P1, I'm thinking they intend to add a bit more bass quantity while trying not to mess with that sound signature too much. The P1 was very light in bass and would never appeal fully to the majority of consumers for that exact reason. As great of an IEM I personally thought it was. Loved that shell shape too, it was very comfortable.


Check back to the post made by @AverageDude on page 72. I think they said they got that info from the company's FB page. In addition to that frequency response range, they wrote 32 Ohm impedance and 108 +/-3dB sensitivity (which I assume was measured at the standard 1mw).


Not exactly talking shop with Bob here :wink:, but I hope that the filters on these new R1 IEMs are longer and a little narrower and that the nozzle angle relative to the shell is a bit more perpendicular than the Trinity Audio IEMs. Those were probably the 3 things that most negatively affected the fit with my Hunters.

The angle shouldn't be a big deal in changing, but the tuning of the filters comes from nozzle length and inside dia. The body where the filter screws into would need to come to a pointier end so it fits better in your ears, but just by going closer to a 45deg angle should give you extra insertion length :ok_hand:
 
Aug 13, 2017 at 8:44 PM Post #1,150 of 36,093
What about the i5? If you like that player and its volume twirly knob then I'd jump on the Andromeda. I could go for another sweet review :raised_hands:



The angle shouldn't be a big deal in changing, but the tuning of the filters comes from nozzle length and inside dia. The body where the filter screws into would need to come to a pointier end so it fits better in your ears, but just by going closer to a 45deg angle should give you extra insertion length :ok_hand:
Deal! Andromeda it is. Too many daps nowadays
 
Aug 13, 2017 at 9:11 PM Post #1,151 of 36,093
The angle shouldn't be a big deal in changing, but the tuning of the filters comes from nozzle length and inside dia. The body where the filter screws into would need to come to a pointier end so it fits better in your ears, but just by going closer to a 45deg angle should give you extra insertion length :ok_hand:
I'd like it actually MORE perpendicular to the shell, not less. 45 degree angle would be less perpendicular to the shell than it already is. IEMs like the Supra and Noble X have much less angle on the nozzle coming out of the shell and I find that more comfortable than the nozzle angle of the Hunter.
 
Aug 13, 2017 at 9:20 PM Post #1,152 of 36,093
What about the i5? If you like that player and its volume twirly knob then I'd jump on the Andromeda. I could go for another sweet review :raised_hands:



The angle shouldn't be a big deal in changing, but the tuning of the filters comes from nozzle length and inside dia. The body where the filter screws into would need to come to a pointier end so it fits better in your ears, but just by going closer to a 45deg angle should give you extra insertion length :ok_hand:


The angle and length on the CA Polaris look to be about right. One reason I will be purchasing them.
 
Aug 13, 2017 at 9:36 PM Post #1,153 of 36,093
I'd like it actually MORE perpendicular to the shell, not less. 45 degree angle would be less perpendicular to the shell than it already is. IEMs like the Supra and Noble X have much less angle on the nozzle coming out of the shell and I find that more comfortable than the nozzle angle of the Hunter.

Yeah, all I meant is that the more acute the angle of the nozzle the more effective length the nozzle will have

The angle and length on the CA Polaris look to be about right. One reason I will be purchasing them.

Their liquid alloy shells have nearly a 90deg nozzle angle and it fits perfect in my ears when worn OTE. @JaeYoon how does the nozzle angle of your Lyra compare to Jupie?
 
Aug 13, 2017 at 9:39 PM Post #1,155 of 36,093
Yeah, all I meant is that the more acute the angle of the nozzle the more effective length the nozzle will have



Their liquid alloy shells have nearly a 90deg nozzle angle and it fits perfect in my ears when worn OTE. @JaeYoon how does the nozzle angle of your Lyra compare to Jupie?
I would say Jupiters have a funny angle, it works well overears! I get really good isolation with spiraldots M/L. Completely get all lower frequencies too.

But my ears are good sized enough to fit entire Jupiter V1 shell in there. None of the sharp points hit my ear. Worn jupiter for 6 hours today, no pain at all.

Lyra/dorado/vega shell is best overall for those where Jupiter's edges will stab you in the ear.
 

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