The Astell & Kern AK240
Jun 22, 2014 at 10:14 AM Post #3,856 of 9,131
The iPhone 5S has a slightly higher output impedance than the single ended HO of the AK240 (2 ohm). It will certainly have a worse response. The balanced side is 1 ohm.

The better question. In my opinion, is why would Shure engineer such a flawed product (ridiculously low and skewed impedance curve) that has problems playing on most devices on the market? I personally found the 846 to sound bad on an iPhone 5 (3.3 ohms).
 
Jun 22, 2014 at 12:26 PM Post #3,860 of 9,131
Keep in mind that the 846 has very low impedance drop with certain frequencies coming close to output impedance of the AK.  It's also sensitive.  1/8 rules will not apply with 846.
 
I have posted that it sounded great with UERM demo.  UERM is quite stable since it has much higher impedance.
 
Jun 22, 2014 at 12:47 PM Post #3,861 of 9,131
The iPhone 5S has a slightly higher output impedance than the single ended HO of the AK240 (2 ohm). It will certainly have a worse response. The balanced side is 1 ohm.

The better question. In my opinion, is why would Shure engineer such a flawed product (ridiculously low and skewed impedance curve) that has problems playing on most devices on the market? I personally found the 846 to sound bad on an iPhone 5 (3.3 ohms).


This. Anything around 2 ohms output impedance should be acceptable for any DAP.
 
Jun 23, 2014 at 4:34 AM Post #3,862 of 9,131
Jun 23, 2014 at 10:18 PM Post #3,863 of 9,131
The iPhone 5S has a slightly higher output impedance than the single ended HO of the AK240 (2 ohm). It will certainly have a worse response. The balanced side is 1 ohm.

The better question. In my opinion, is why would Shure engineer such a flawed product (ridiculously low and skewed impedance curve) that has problems playing on most devices on the market? I personally found the 846 to sound bad on an iPhone 5 (3.3 ohms).

Earphones have been made to ridiculous spec for years. It's nothing new. The Shure SE846 actually is slightly easier to drive that certain other earphones. The Earsonics SM2, for example, still causes a lot of pain for portable amps and sub-par players. The SE846 provokes less signal degradation than the SM2, though it is not an easy earphone to drive. 
 
Jun 23, 2014 at 10:34 PM Post #3,864 of 9,131
I went for silver dragon V1 balanced cable for my shure846, sounds very good with the AK240 IMO.
 
Jun 24, 2014 at 3:46 AM Post #3,865 of 9,131
hey guys,
 
just received my rwak240, noticed a line on the side of the unit probably due to the modification opening up the case. is it meant to be like that?perfectly acceptable if it is due to the mod. but i am just curious and asking...gonna have a fun time listening tonite...
 
Johny
 
Jun 24, 2014 at 3:51 AM Post #3,866 of 9,131
why does a $2500 DAP have an output impedance of 2ohms?
triportsad.gif
 You would think they would know the ak240 will be used with highly sensitive iems.
 
Jun 24, 2014 at 3:55 AM Post #3,867 of 9,131
  hey guys,
 
just received my rwak240, noticed a line on the side of the unit probably due to the modification opening up the case. is it meant to be like that?perfectly acceptable if it is due to the mod. but i am just curious and asking...gonna have a fun time listening tonite...
 
Johny

owwwwh man...RWAK240!!..impressions asap bro..especially with the Ref 1 (Uber)
 
on another note, a line on the side of the unit? take a pic so other owners can advise
 
Jun 24, 2014 at 5:03 AM Post #3,868 of 9,131
  owwwwh man...RWAK240!!..impressions asap bro..especially with the Ref 1 (Uber)
 
on another note, a line on the side of the unit? take a pic so other owners can advise

 
the sound, absolutely stunning! i havent hear stock ak240, so cant compare those two. but coming from dx100, the sound is stunning!!
 
last year, i went into shop to audition ak120 but walked out with dx100 given i could purchase those two at the similar price. disapppointed with ak120 but man, i didn't know ak240 is such a monster.
 
i haven't loaded any of my music in, was listening to some songs pre-loaded by vinnie at red wind, that clarity, that sound stage...no regret spending 3k+ on this..
 
i am going to give it a full charge and load my own music and listen again...
 
apparently my uber is with Gavin for a trrs retermination, maybe 2 to 3 weeks time....so i am using ref1+silver#gold
 
about the line...any rwak user got this?
 

 
Jun 24, 2014 at 5:08 AM Post #3,869 of 9,131
Looks like a scratch to me and has got nothing to do with the mod. Better check with Vinnie IMO.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top