[davidmolliere]

  Flame war? Okay....being a bit dramatic there
Good to hear about the Kimber, I am very curious to hear it!

 
You're right, it might be overdramatic, heated debate then

 

[Prophet293]

anyone who phool themselves with this cable crap, why not put yourself to a double blind test, what are you afraid of?

 

[jmsaxon69]

anyone who phool themselves with this cable crap, why not put yourself to a double blind test, what are you afraid of?

Why don't you take one and prove that you can't hear it?

 

[Prophet293]

Why don't you take one and prove that you can't hear it?

 
I did and I didn't hear any.
 
Now, why are you so afraid of double blind test on cables?

 

[akhyar]

Can we get back to Z7 discussion before Currawong comes down and lock this thread?
There's science forum if you guys wanna debate about cable until no tomorrow

 

[essentiale]

I've enjoyed my z7 since the day I bought it... To the extent of putting it on for the entire day while listening to music and playing games on my computer to watching movies with it to lulling myself to sleep on my bed. My sound preference definitely lies towards slightly darker than neutral and so I kinda love this headphone. The next step for me is to upgrade the amplification and create a slight warmer mids and possibly expand the soundstage.. As for cable mods, the only reason why I would consider them is possibly for using it on a balanced set up ie terminating in XLR.

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

 

[jmsaxon69]

I love my Z7 as is too!

 

[Sonic Defender]

 
No man, I'm not angry or anything.  I just find it amusing that something I've never given a second thought to and experienced over and over again for 30 years is considered by some to be "snake oil".  It boggles my mind.  You could have got those speaker wires made of ANY material and you chose $500 silver wire.  I hope you enjoy them! The NAD house sound is a bit dark, so the Silver wire should be a good match for the HE560, hope it's not too bright though...

You nailed it, the NAD is a little warm (but wonderfully so and not smeared) and that is why it is such a great match with the 560 which while I wouldn't call them bright, they are well extended for certain. I only went silver as by the time you are spending $350 the small extra difference is irrelevant. At the time Norne was out of stock on the less expensive cable option I would have been fine with so when offered the opportunity to move up in the line I took it as I had sold my headphone amp and had no way to enjoy my 560s. I do not think cables are snake oil. I have a healthy belief that they can make a difference, but I can't test this as of yet. I am always a proponent of both objective and subjective evidence and that is why I feel the blind testing is a valid approach. Anyway, enough cable talk, well mostly. I want to use my existing speaker tap with the Z7, but I will need to get an adapter made for the cup attachments now on that would allow me to go into the cups on the Z7. What style of plug goes into the Z7 cups?

 

[jmsaxon69]

 
You nailed it, the NAD is a little warm (but wonderfully so and not smeared) and that is why it is such a great match with the 560 which while I wouldn't call them bright, they are well extended for certain. I only went silver as by the time you are spending $350 the small extra difference is irrelevant. At the time Norne was out of stock on the less expensive cable option I would have been fine with so when offered the opportunity to move up in the line I took it as I had sold my headphone amp and had no way to enjoy my 560s. I do not think cables are snake oil. I have a healthy belief that they can make a difference, but I can't test this as of yet. I am always a proponent of both objective and subjective evidence and that is why I feel the blind testing is a valid approach. Anyway, enough cable talk, well mostly. I want to use my existing speaker tap with the Z7, but I will need to get an adapter made for the cup attachments now on that would allow me to go into the cups on the Z7. What style of plug goes into the Z7 cups?

Just an easy 3.5 mm jack

 

[Robert777]

@Rumiho
 
May I ask how the Z7 pairs with the HP-A4?
 
I have the HP-A4 and I am close to purchasing the Z7. I was not sure if the PHA-3 would be a necessity.

 

[Rumiho]

  @Rumiho
 
May I ask how the Z7 pairs with the HP-A4?
 
I have the HP-A4 and I am close to purchasing the Z7. I was not sure if the PHA-3 would be a necessity.

So far it sounds great and in my opinion pairs excellently, but do note this is the only dac/amp I've owned as I bought it to pair with my TH600's, so I have no other reference to compare against.

 

[jmsaxon69]

One thing I've noticed is that my Musical Fidelity X-Can v2 (that I thought i was getting rid of) sounds fantastic on the Z7! The mellow laid back presentation does wonders with some stuff you might not have been too hot on with past headphones.

 

[Robert777]

  So far it sounds great and in my opinion pairs excellently, but do note this is the only dac/amp I've owned as I bought it to pair with my TH600's, so I have no other reference to compare against.

Thank you for the information. The HP-A4 is my first desktop amp as well. At least I know I can get the Z7s without needing to upgrade my setup right away.

 

[musicdragoon]

Mine is 7948

 

[RandomHajile]

tried out the included silver plated copper (litz?) sony cable as a normal 3.5mm cable
 
it didnt work
 
so i guess it really does only have the 2 poles connected (balanced; hot and cold?), and no/not ground!
 
so the included cables are strictly PHA-3 (and pono) only!