[montanari]

I didnt find any headphone

 

[halcyon]

I didnt find any headphone

Sure, it's not there anymore.... Like I said, 1-2 hours. I saw it, but it was too late. A couple of people at a local forum were I hang out (not here) were able to put in an order, before they were all gone.

 

[Maelob]

I saw a few on amazon for under 1700 USD.

 

[Lookout57]

Moon Audio is selling them for 15% off for Black Friday.

 

[montanari]

It s not 999 but always cheaper than usual..
https://www.cobra.fr/sony-mdrz1r-p-40921

 

[MacedonianHero]

i can appreciate that the th900's highs may be too sharp for some folks tastes - they were problematic for me initially. i liked the z1r but it didn't sound any more open and "transparent" (whatever that means) than the th900 to my ears. i'm yet to hear a closed-back headphone that surpasses the th900's open presentation and clarity.

More transparent = less of its own sound introduced into the mix and the sound staging is definitely better on the Sonys by a good margin. Plus, I can't really consider the TH900s as closed back because they let sound in like an open headphone. The TH900s don't sound as good as even the much cheaper Purple-hearts (based on the TH900s and quite a bit less $$$); which is why in the end I sold them as I could have an equally impressive built headphone with smoother treble and overall SQ for less money. Weird as we hear the Utopia pretty much equally the same?

 

[montanari]

No way That th900 and the massdrop sound the same
The th900 is another Level.. Anyway i liked tge z1r very much, less detailed but more musical
I found additectedtoaudio in Australia are selling them for around 1050eur new and i would buy for that price immediately but they dont ship outsider Australia..
If somebody knows This price in europe please let me know

 

[Quadfather]

Is the Z1R better out of the Sony NW - WM1A or the Sony NW - WM1Z? I just joined, and have not had much of an opportunity to read the entire thread yet.

 

[MacedonianHero]

No way That th900 and the massdrop sound the same
The th900 is another Level.. Anyway i liked tge z1r very much, less detailed but more musical
I found additectedtoaudio in Australia are selling them for around 1050eur new and i would buy for that price immediately but they dont ship outsider Australia..
If somebody knows This price in europe please let me know

But they do sound more coherent, especially in the upper mids/treble regions. Have you heard them?

 

[montanari]

I had the first release when it come out for about one month
It s a good but mid level headphone

 

[MacedonianHero]

I had the first release when it come out for about one month
It s a good but mid level headphone

I think they’re all mid level FWIW in terms of sound. I just prefer the variants. YMMV of course...but hats how I feel with my experiences with these headphones.

 

[montanari]

They are all mid level the Sony too..
Compared to some open back like lcd3 or he1000..
But I still think that th900 and Sony z1r are another upper category above th x00 or d7200
And yes maybe the Sony a bit better than th900 but I Need to listen a bit more to be sure so the gap is not so big

 

[MacedonianHero]

They are all mid level the Sony too..
Compared to some open back like lcd3 or he1000..
But I still think that th900 and Sony z1r are another upper category above th x00 or d7200

I’m not going to argue here, by the 900s have a few fatal issues for me: the lack of isolation and that treble (which the variants rectify. I agree the lcd3/lcd4/lcd4z are better.

 

[montanari]

Just try to listen to them from a valve amp or the front jack of accuphase 600 or luxman 550/590 (from where the Sony sounds too dark and boring) and I m sure you ll chage your opinion!
I would like a bit more treble from the Sony for example..

 

[MacedonianHero]

Just try to listen to them from a valve amp or the front jack of accuphase 600 or luxman 550/590 and I m sure you ll chage your opinion!
I would like a bit more treble from the Sony for example..

Yeah...I’ve heard them from some killer tube amps too (WA22, WA33 and a Dragon Inspire IHA-1 among others). If you like them...that’s all that matters.