Sony NW-ZX300
Feb 21, 2018 at 7:45 PM Post #4,906 of 12,862
I'm obviously misunderstanding what your after. You must mean like a line-out, not as a DAC.
It's confusing, dear I say on purpose.
Sony sell the WMC-NWH10 which is a WM-Port to USB Audio Out (with unknown standards) the cable pinout is different to USB Data as it has a pin for USB standard negotiation eg (UAC2).
http://helpguide.sony.net/mig/Z003869611/EN/contents/TP0000627708.html
This is different than USB Data, I just need to test an application which uses a XMOS proc (https://www.xmos.com/download/private/Why-do-you-need-USB-Audio-Class-2?(1.0).pdf)
The problem is they charge some A$90 for a stupid $2 cable, so I'm looking for a clone. I fear the FIIO L27 is just a short data cable.

Edit: according to Sony website, it can be done. Looks like they are up to firmware 1.10

Nope, you have to create playlist(s) first then copy them over, and then you can add to it. The album art stuff will piss you off too.
 
Feb 21, 2018 at 7:45 PM Post #4,907 of 12,862
I remember reading that you can add to an existing playlist. Does that mean you could just create a few playlists on pc with 1 song then edit/add on the player itself? Is the bookmark feature basically the same as playlist?

*Edit* raybies and I must of been typing at the same time
 
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Feb 21, 2018 at 7:53 PM Post #4,908 of 12,862
I remember reading that you can add to an existing playlist. Does that mean you could just create a few playlists on pc with 1 song then edit/add on the player itself? Is the bookmark feature basically the same as playlist?
Bookmarks are easy to add (... add bookmark > choose page).
To view swipe right, you get 10 pages.
 
Feb 21, 2018 at 7:54 PM Post #4,909 of 12,862
So, are you saying that the Sony website is showing a function (making playlists on machine) that it doesn't actually do? Wth. Does anyone have a cable recommendation for my Sony h3's? Does the cheaper Sony balanced cable (non kimber) have the ability to wrap around the ear with that stiff wire that the stock h3's has? I don't want to have my IEMS falling out and tha ear hook wire that's built into the stock wire seems integral to keeping them in my ear.
It's confusing, dear I say on purpose.
Sony sell the WMC-NWH10 which is a WM-Port to USB Audio Out (with unknown standards) the cable pinout is different to USB Data as it has a pin for USB standard negotiation eg (UAC2).
http://helpguide.sony.net/mig/Z003869611/EN/contents/TP0000627708.html
This is different than USB Data, I just need to test an application which uses a XMOS proc (https://www.xmos.com/download/private/Why-do-you-need-USB-Audio-Class-2?(1.0).pdf)
The problem is they charge some A$90 for a stupid $2 cable, so I'm looking for a clone. I fear the FIIO L27 is just a short data cable.



Nope, you have to create playlist(s) first then copy them over, and then you can add to it. The album art stuff will piss you off too.
It's confusing, dear I say on purpose.
Sony sell the WMC-NWH10 which is a WM-Port to USB Audio Out (with unknown standards) the cable pinout is different to USB Data as it has a pin for USB standard negotiation eg (UAC2).
http://helpguide.sony.net/mig/Z003869611/EN/contents/TP0000627708.html
This is different than USB Data, I just need to test an application which uses a XMOS proc (https://www.xmos.com/download/private/Why-do-you-need-USB-Audio-Class-2?(1.0).pdf)
The problem is they charge some A$90 for a stupid $2 cable, so I'm looking for a clone. I fear the FIIO L27 is just a short data cable.



Nope, you have to create playlist(s) first then copy them over, and then you can add to it. The album art stuff will piss you off too.
just great. How do I do this on a mac? Everything is so simple on the iPhone. So can I still search/scroll by artist, genre, album etc? How is my new toy that I haven't even received yet pissing me off. Lol.
 
Feb 21, 2018 at 8:10 PM Post #4,910 of 12,862
Feb 21, 2018 at 8:13 PM Post #4,911 of 12,862
just great. How do I do this on a mac? Everything is so simple on the iPhone. So can I still search/scroll by artist, genre, album etc? How is my new toy that I haven't even received yet pissing me off. Lol.

Just create an empty file with an m3u ext.
No searching.
You can group by most mp3 tags.
Set your expectations low, and you'll be fine, but it does have usability issues, and they sure haven't adopted User Centric Design principals.
I posted my views here: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/sony-nw-zx300.854693/page-327#post-14057443
I'm not commenting on audio until I have 100hrs on it.

Btw, me being an ex-Android ROM cook, I think iPhone's (Foxconn's or Hon Hai) are totally useless... I can't believe how people can be happy with such limitations. But I couldn't live without root either.

PS: ZX300 is a perdy unit :wink:
 
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Feb 21, 2018 at 9:13 PM Post #4,912 of 12,862
Just create an empty file with an m3u ext.
No searching.
You can group by most mp3 tags.
Set your expectations low, and you'll be fine, but it does have usability issues, and they sure haven't adopted User Centric Design principals.
I posted my views here: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/sony-nw-zx300.854693/page-327#post-14057443
I'm not commenting on audio until I have 100hrs on it.

Btw, me being an ex-Android ROM cook, I think iPhone's (Foxconn's or Hon Hai) are totally useless... I can't believe how people can be happy with such limitations. But I couldn't live without root either.

PS: It's a perdy unit :wink:
I agree apple put so much limitation on the Iphone, I purchased a Iphone 8 256GB version around the released date, and found that even transferring photo's is a problem, now it's just in my backpack and is used for calls only, I think thats the best thing apple has done with the Ipnone to date.:yum: My android phone does all the other stuff.
 
Feb 21, 2018 at 9:36 PM Post #4,913 of 12,862
It's confusing, dear I say on purpose.
Sony sell the WMC-NWH10 which is a WM-Port to USB Audio Out (with unknown standards) the cable pinout is different to USB Data as it has a pin for USB standard negotiation eg (UAC2).
http://helpguide.sony.net/mig/Z003869611/EN/contents/TP0000627708.html
This is different than USB Data, I just need to test an application which uses a XMOS proc (https://www.xmos.com/download/private/Why-do-you-need-USB-Audio-Class-2?(1.0).pdf)
The problem is they charge some A$90 for a stupid $2 cable, so I'm looking for a clone. I fear the FIIO L27 is just a short data cable.



Nope, you have to create playlist(s) first then copy them over, and then you can add to it. The album art stuff will piss you off too.
I am pretty sure the L 27 is not a short data cable and does USB Audio out just like the WMC-NWH10. I will be getting the L 27 in a couple of days and will let you know.
 
Feb 21, 2018 at 9:37 PM Post #4,914 of 12,862
So, are you saying that the Sony website is showing a function (making playlists on machine) that it doesn't actually do? Wth.

Check out the Sony website:

http://helpguide.sony.net/dmp/nwzx300/v1/en/contents/TP0001449040.html



Does anyone have a 4.4.cable recommendation for my Sony h3's? Does the cheaper Sony balanced cable (non kimber) have the ability to wrap around the ear with that stiff wire that the stock h3's has? I don't want to have my IEMS falling out and tha ear hook wire that's built into the stock wire seems integral to keeping them in my ear, especially when out and about.
There are a lot of cable options. It would be better if you tell us which part of the world you are in for better suggestions.
 
Feb 21, 2018 at 9:50 PM Post #4,915 of 12,862
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I bought a custom cable from Amazon that connected the Sony WM port to an amp dac, the listing specified the Opportunity HA-2 but should connect to any brand. I see it is no longer available on Amazon
 
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Feb 21, 2018 at 11:53 PM Post #4,916 of 12,862
It's confusing, dear I say on purpose.
Sony sell the WMC-NWH10 which is a WM-Port to USB Audio Out (with unknown standards) the cable pinout is different to USB Data as it has a pin for USB standard negotiation eg (UAC2).
http://helpguide.sony.net/mig/Z003869611/EN/contents/TP0000627708.html
This is different than USB Data, I just need to test an application which uses a XMOS proc (https://www.xmos.com/download/private/Why-do-you-need-USB-Audio-Class-2?(1.0).pdf)
The problem is they charge some A$90 for a stupid $2 cable, so I'm looking for a clone. I fear the FIIO L27 is just a short data cable.



Nope, you have to create playlist(s) first then copy them over, and then you can add to it. The album art stuff will piss you off too.

If you need to connect your walkman to other device such as headphone amp in digital USB AUDIO connection, you need that cable to do the job
Not sure what protocol it is but it worked for many amp I tested, so I guess it is some common standard

The FIIO one should be ok, someone used it to feed HUGO2

If you just want to use your ZX300 as USB-DAC to connect your PC, the cable come with the box should be fine.
 
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Feb 22, 2018 at 1:53 AM Post #4,918 of 12,862
Feb 22, 2018 at 3:48 AM Post #4,919 of 12,862
just great. How do I do this on a mac? Everything is so simple on the iPhone. So can I still search/scroll by artist, genre, album etc? How is my new toy that I haven't even received yet pissing me off. Lol.


Ha ha you can make playlists on the Sony media go software and bookmarks are like custom playlists. And you can search by all those methods and when you scroll fast the letter of the alphabet comes up so you can stop where you want to, like F for Frank Zappa and so on. There just isn't a search function atm where you can type letters in to get to specific songs and such.

And by scrolling, I mean the title or song info doesn't automagically scroll across the screen on the now playing screen. So you only see part of the info, unless you go into another view or detailed song info. Don't be put off by the comments lol, we ALWAYS want more but the UI is simple but it works fine :wink: No worries.

I too reside in the NE US. :) sadly. Thinking about 'Moving to Montana' so you know I can be a dental floss tycoon.

Frank sounds so good on zx300!
 
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Feb 22, 2018 at 5:26 AM Post #4,920 of 12,862
So I finally got my balanced cable for the Shures and plugged it into the ZX300 - did a bit of burn in with it first to give it a chance, of course.

Balanced isn't a night and day difference like upgrading your headphones is, but I do find it makes a few changes -

More bass - for some reason, songs are a bit weightier in the low end now, which is quite nice to be honest - and you can always EQ it out if you prefer less.

Sound stage altered - notice that I didn't say 'better'. The soundstage is now brought more forward, with more depth to the front. It makes you feel like you're in the recording studio with bands now rather than being at an intimate concert, if that makes sense?

Clarity is unaltered, but it was excellent to begin with.

One thing that's really interesting though... On the ZX300 over single ended, 320kbps MP3s sounded easily as good as FLAC files, whether they be 16 or 24bit (however MQA mastered files sung on a different level which MP3 couldn't match). Well, over balanced - FLAC definitely sounds a bit better than MP3, but I really don't know why.

It's all good though, it just means over SE the ZX300 makes ALL your music sound incredible, but through balanced it unlocks an extra level that your FLAC files can reach.

If you want to try balanced cables on a semi-realistic budget, I ordered mine from Surf Cables in the US and it took a week door to door to reach me. Built very well also.
 

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