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Feb 5, 2017 at 7:47 AM Post #8,838 of 45,723
ref8 vs thor silver ii guys ?

i would pick Effect audio over ALO. Someone should come try their booth in canjam, unbelievable performance.
 
Feb 5, 2017 at 8:37 AM Post #8,840 of 45,723
A quick visual comparison between the 4.4mm plugs (sorry, photos from my iPhone) :-
 
L-R: Nobunaga Labs, Effect Audio, Oyaide OEM (Topura?), BiSpa, Pentaconn
 

 
The Nobunaga has a longer inner stem compared to the Effect Audio however the external casing of both are similar in length. Both are shorter than the Oyaide OEM/Topura & BiSpa. The longest being the Pentaconn.
 
One thing different about the Pentacon is the R+ and R- side-by-side (as such fewer whole "rings").
 


In terms of space for cable, the Pentaconn offers the largest inner diameter for holding cables, whilst BiSpa and Oyaide OEM/Topura are similar. The Effect Audio has a slightly larger diameter than the Nobunaga Labs, but both are smaller than the BiSpa and Oyaide OEM/Topura.
 
Feb 5, 2017 at 8:41 AM Post #8,841 of 45,723
Exactly why I love the Pentaconn...but it is hard to work on. The Oyaide OEM look good, but how come it does look similar to some cheaper kinds ? Thank you Anakchan Btw. Effect audio do look very solid.

Any news on Furutech or Cardas to be making 4.4 soon ?
 
Feb 5, 2017 at 8:46 AM Post #8,842 of 45,723
Exactly why I love the Pentaconn...but it is hard to work on. 
 

 
What makes you say that?  
That design actually looks like it's seriously easy to work with from what I see, especially that R+/R- side rings.
 
Feb 5, 2017 at 8:47 AM Post #8,843 of 45,723
What makes you say that?  
That design actually looks like it's seriously easy to work with from what I see, especially that R+/R- side rings.


That is where the problem is, R+ terminal is so (small) and so close to the main body. In comparison to the rest of the above plugs, the Pentaconn is harder to work on....heck, even harder than some 3.5mm lol
 
Feb 5, 2017 at 8:49 AM Post #8,844 of 45,723
The Oyaide OEM (someone said it's Topura, happy to take their word for it) is the cheapest of the lot in fact at ¥1600, Nobunga Labs at ¥1700, Bispa at ¥1890, Effect Audio at ¥2600, & Pentaconn at ¥5800.

The Oyaide OEM/Topura as previously mentioned is made in Japan, as is the Pentaconn. I don't know about the others.
 
Feb 5, 2017 at 8:50 AM Post #8,845 of 45,723
That is where the problem is, R+ terminal is so (small) and so close to the main body. In comparison to the rest of the above plugs, the Pentaconn is harder to work on....heck, even harder than some 3.5mm lol

 
I don't have problems with small contacts myself.  It's when the terminals are of different lengths that makes it hard for me, especially for those were it is alternating. 
 
Feb 5, 2017 at 8:54 AM Post #8,846 of 45,723
The Oyaide is the cheapest of the lot in fact at ¥1600, Nobunga Labs at ¥1700, Bispa at ¥1890, Effect Audio at ¥2600, & Pentaconn at ¥5800.

The Oyaide OEM as previously mentioned is made in Japan, as is the Pentaconn. I don't know about the others.

 
NDICS is being a little misleading with their wording. "Produce by Japan, Made in PRC" is what it says.  PRC is of course People's Republic of China.  That makes them made in China.
 
http://blog-imgs-96.fc2.com/f/i/x/fixerhpa/IMG_6308001.jpg
 
Feb 5, 2017 at 8:56 AM Post #8,847 of 45,723
Feb 5, 2017 at 8:59 AM Post #8,849 of 45,723
Thx for the correction.

 
I'm thinking they are taking cues from the wordings of Apple devices - Design in California, assembled in China - that kind of thing. But worded in a pretty poor way that will easily lead to misunderstanding.
 
Feb 5, 2017 at 9:35 AM Post #8,850 of 45,723
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