[Vamp898]

So that's probably why no cfw ... Time to get someone at xda involved

As soon you unlock the Bootloader, the API key to access the S-Master HX gets lost. There is no way to restore it. The Walkman App also no longer works.

So unlocking the bootloader is an one way ticket.

The same thing happens to Xperia Smartphones who loose their API keys for accessing the camera, NFC and so on.

So unlocking the bootloader pretty much makes it unusable.

 

[djricekcn]

I wonder if the sudden shutdown of certain cities in China due to covid will cause a delay in the sale or release of this DAP. Any thoughts?

For the M2, probably not as it releases in a little over a week. Reproduction is another story

 

[djricekcn]

As soon you unlock the Bootloader, the API key to access the S-Master HX gets lost. There is no way to restore it. The Walkman App also no longer works.

So unlocking the bootloader is an one way ticket.

The same thing happens to Xperia Smartphones who loose their API keys for accessing the camera, NFC and so on.

So unlocking the bootloader pretty much makes it unusable.

Thank you... so it's pretty locked like their game consoles

 

[dennarwhal]

As soon you unlock the Bootloader, the API key to access the S-Master HX gets lost. There is no way to restore it. The Walkman App also no longer works.

So unlocking the bootloader is an one way ticket.

The same thing happens to Xperia Smartphones who loose their API keys for accessing the camera, NFC and so on.

So unlocking the bootloader pretty much makes it unusable.

Wow, this really brings home the whole Sony being a double edged sword kinda issue.

While they provide a nice sound, for the life of me, I cannot fathom why they would go to such an extent to lock a user in on an open source platform like Android.

 

[MrWalkman]

As soon you unlock the Bootloader, the API key to access the S-Master HX gets lost. There is no way to restore it. The Walkman App also no longer works.

So unlocking the bootloader is an one way ticket.

The same thing happens to Xperia Smartphones who loose their API keys for accessing the camera, NFC and so on.

So unlocking the bootloader pretty much makes it unusable.

I'm not sure where you got this info.

I actually unlocked the bootloader on the A105 and it still played music perfectly fine.

The only thing which happens when you unlock the bootloader is that the device gets reset, so you have to go through the initial setup.

 

[blade007]

Anyone here who has auditioned the 1ZM2, could you please tell me how it compares to WM1Z? I'm getting a good deal on a new WM1Z, but if the new one is big step up I'll wait. I don't care about streaming apps etc. Just want to know how is the sound signature etc.

My primary setup is Fiio M11 LTD (AKM version) + CA Andromeda.

 

[dennarwhal]

Anyone here who has auditioned the 1ZM2, could you please tell me how it compares to WM1Z? I'm getting a good deal on a new WM1Z, but if the new one is big step up I'll wait. I don't care about streaming apps etc. Just want to know how is the sound signature etc.

My primary setup is Fiio M11 LTD (AKM version) + CA Andromeda.

I'm glad you asked. I did have the honour of trying it. My posts about it are a few pages back.

Let me link it for you here: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/new-sony-nw-wm1z-m2-wm1a-m2.962054/post-16848044

The Fiio M11 LTD is very reminiscent of my own Topping D70s and A90, smooth but clean and neutral. Suffice to say that Sony likes smooth but more warmth in their players.

 

[Vamp898]

Anyone here who has auditioned the 1ZM2, could you please tell me how it compares to WM1Z? I'm getting a good deal on a new WM1Z, but if the new one is big step up I'll wait. I don't care about streaming apps etc. Just want to know how is the sound signature etc.

My primary setup is Fiio M11 LTD (AKM version) + CA Andromeda.

What exactly is a good deal? If its 40% cheaper than the new WM1ZM2, i'd get it without thinking about it.

The WM1Z does have a _big_ advantage, and that is the Bluetooth Receiver Mode. When im outside the building, im putting the WM1Z in a safe pocket in my jacket, connect my phone wia LDAC 990kbps and play the music from my Phone. I also connect it to my BluRay Player to listen to Live Concerts or to my Notebook connected to the TV.

The LDAC Support is, imho, one of its biggest features. Because you can have wireless audio and still have the full sound quality of the WM1Z.

And unlike the M11 Plus LTD, its without its heavy lag. I could not use the M11 Plus LTD for concerts or playing with the Switch/Vita because the sound was delayed insanely. This is not the case with the WM1Z. This is worth a lot for me and the M2 does not have that.

The M11 Plus LTD follows an monitoring style, the WM1Z follows an Listening Style. If you're doing professional work like Mixing/Mastering or PA Works with it (what you most likely don't), then i would not recommend the WM1Z. But if you're listening to music or movies and want an authentic and realistic sound, the WM1Z is a big improvement over the M11 Plus LTD.

I owned the M11 Plus LTD twice and i personally think that even the ZX300/ZX507 is an upgrade to it (4,4mm only).

 

[dennarwhal]

Anyone here who has auditioned the 1ZM2, could you please tell me how it compares to WM1Z? I'm getting a good deal on a new WM1Z, but if the new one is big step up I'll wait. I don't care about streaming apps etc. Just want to know how is the sound signature etc.

My primary setup is Fiio M11 LTD (AKM version) + CA Andromeda.

What exactly is a good deal? If its 40% cheaper than the new WM1ZM2, i'd get it without thinking about it.

The WM1Z does have a _big_ advantage, and that is the Bluetooth Receiver Mode. When im outside the building, im putting the WM1Z in a safe pocket in my jacket, connect my phone wia LDAC 990kbps and play the music from my Phone. I also connect it to my BluRay Player to listen to Live Concerts or to my Notebook connected to the TV.

The LDAC Support is, imho, one of its biggest features. Because you can have wireless audio and still have the full sound quality of the WM1Z.

And unlike the M11 Plus LTD, its without its heavy lag. I could not use the M11 Plus LTD for concerts or playing with the Switch/Vita because the sound was delayed insanely. This is not the case with the WM1Z. This is worth a lot for me and the M2 does not have that.

The M11 Plus LTD follows an monitoring style, the WM1Z follows an Listening Style. If you're doing professional work like Mixing/Mastering or PA Works with it (what you most likely don't), then i would not recommend the WM1Z. But if you're listening to music or movies and want an authentic and realistic sound, the WM1Z is a big improvement over the M11 Plus LTD.

I owned the M11 Plus LTD twice and i personally think that even the ZX300/ZX507 is an upgrade to it (4,4mm only).

I agree with @Vamp898. Since you (@blade007) said that you are not keen on streaming, a WM1Z at a good deal is very worth the investment. Yes, its heavy. Yes, it is the chungus of music players.

I too have the tried the M11 Plus LTD AKM thinking that it would be a "value" chinese version of a WM1A seeing as it has AKM DACs, but it is safe to say that Fiio and Sony have different philosophies when it comes to how something should sound. Fiio wants to provide that clean, unadulterated sound but Sony is keen on providing that inviting, musical experience for you. Most importantly, neither are wrong, its just a matter of what you like

However, you could keep both your M11 LTD and potential WM1Z depending on how you wish to listen to music that day. I have my M1ST for days when I want to hear every last bit from my track and I have my 1AM2 for days when I just wanna weeb out.

In all, it comes down to how good of a deal you can get that WM1Z for.

 

[rlw6534]

I'm not sure where you got this info.

I actually unlocked the bootloader on the A105 and it still played music perfectly fine.

The only thing which happens when you unlock the bootloader is that the device gets reset, so you have to go through the initial setup.

The bigger problem is getting a boot image. The UPG files are apparently encrypted so I got stuck there.

 

[Shonen84]

I wonder if the sudden shutdown of certain cities in China due to covid will cause a delay in the sale or release of this DAP. Any thoughts?

Amazon.de has published pre-orders and shipping dates. The EU importer is in my country - Belgium. This implies the DAPs are already here and are currently being tested/branded/certified.

 

[danlevy]

I bought my adaptor (3rd party) and tried it on the WM1ZM2 and it works with my pha3 amp so I supposed it will work.

What kind of adaptor do you use to connect the WM1ZM2 to your PHA3? Thank you.

 

[Vamp898]

I'm not sure where you got this info.

I actually unlocked the bootloader on the A105 and it still played music perfectly fine.

The only thing which happens when you unlock the bootloader is that the device gets reset, so you have to go through the initial setup.

It is still playing music, but not in the same quality. Same is true for Xperia Phones. You can still take photos after you unlocked the bootloader, but its not the same image quality anymore.

At least with the ZX507, that was the case. I never tried the A105 so maybe its different, depending on the device.

 

[Quadfather]

If the new generation sounded pretty much identical, but had double the power and no android, then I would definitely save up.

 

[nc8000]

If the new generation sounded pretty much identical, but had double the power and no android, then I would definitely save up.

Yep plus the same battery life