[Witcher]

I do not have it on disk

Is this recording you have on disk or in a file?

Mine is from iTunes.

 

[rgs9200m]

Not a matter of money SonyES? Then just order up an Apex Pinnacle from TTVJ and don't worry, be happy. (Don't forget a nice NOS 6NS7 tube as a cherry atop the sundae...)

 

[SONYES]

Oh, there is a CLEAR difference in sound signatures between my Z1R and HD800S, the former being lush and romantic and oh-so easy to listen to, the latter more clinical, sparkly, and precise. It all depends on my mood regarding which pair I reach for, but there's absolutely no denying that the Sony is the more "pleasant" listen... at least for me.

I use my iFi Pro iCan with both... Typically running the Z1R in solid state mode, whereas I usually pick tube (or even tube+) for the HD800S. I feel very fortunate to be able to have both and get to choose my poison, so to speak.

The Hifiman Edition X V2 is a very good marriage of both sound signatures and would be an excellent all-rounder. Love them!

And, since we're talking Mahler 2, the best sounding recording I have is the Bertini. It also happens to be one of the most wonderful and cohesive performances in my extensive Mahler collection. I typically listen to redbook, but I have been collecting Blu Ray Audio more and more.

Oh, there is a CLEAR difference in sound signatures between my Z1R and HD800S, the former being lush and romantic and oh-so easy to listen to, the latter more clinical, sparkly, and precise. It all depends on my mood regarding which pair I reach for, but there's absolutely no denying that the Sony is the more "pleasant" listen... at least for me.

I use my iFi Pro iCan with both... Typically running the Z1R in solid state mode, whereas I usually pick tube (or even tube+) for the HD800S. I feel very fortunate to be able to have both and get to choose my poison, so to speak.

The Hifiman Edition X V2 is a very good marriage of both sound signatures and would be an excellent all-rounder. Love them!

And, since we're talking Mahler 2, the best sounding recording I have is the Bertini. It also happens to be one of the most wonderful and cohesive performances in my extensive Mahler collection. I typically listen to redbook, but I have been collecting Blu Ray Audio more and more.

Thank you very much for sharing
Really the first time I hear something like Gary Bertini
It really warms the heart
Since I had heard Maestro Bertini hundreds of times on the radio here.
And even his live concerts here in Israel.
With the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra and the Israel Broadcasting / Jerusalem Symphony Orchestra
I also think he is a great conductor and definitely Mahler's symphonies cycle with the amazing Colon Orchestra I might be wrong with the orchestra?
For Blu-ray I had the OPPO-105 and it had a very good sound in BlueRay but always the 24/48 layer of video
Sounds more full to me
From the sound of net 24/192 or DTS
I have several blu-ray discs but thousands of ordinary CD's and some SACD
My opinion is good but prefer the version
The Red Book

 

[SONYES]

Mine is from iTunes.

Do your opinion and your listening to music
they
The best of files
Give the sound of CD?
I TUNE
From tests I conducted and myself did
Facing high quality DAC
Versus Rip's Discs Make those disks into files
PLAC /
The closest to reality CD is WAV
But in any case a CD in a good CD player sounds different
And good
So I only hear from disks and not from files
Sony's new amplifier

Sony TA-ZH1ES

It has the option to read all formats
And at least my experience with discs I have
DSD
Not everyone sounds better than the Remaster version
Who did twenty years ago 24/20 bit
In the SONY / RCA studios

 

[Witcher]

Do your opinion and your listening to music
they
The best of files
Give the sound of CD?
I TUNE
From tests I conducted and myself did
Facing high quality DAC
Versus Rip's Discs Make those disks into files
PLAC /
The closest to reality CD is WAV
But in any case a CD in a good CD player sounds different
And good
So I only hear from disks and not from files
Sony's new amplifier

Sony TA-ZH1ES

It has the option to read all formats
And at least my experience with discs I have
DSD
Not everyone sounds better than the Remaster version
Who did twenty years ago 24/20 bit
In the SONY / RCA studios

Yes they do. CD quality encoding isn't the best any more. These days many listeners use FLAC (uncompressed audio) or DSD. I'm not too bothered with the file quality because most of the audio encoders today are very good, and it's not easy to tell compressed audio from uncompressed in a blind test. As long as the sound is of good quality, I'm fine, regardless whether it's a 256 kbps file, or DSD.

PS. You do know that CD audio quality is actually 16bits with 44khz sampling, which is one of the lower standard formats used today.

 

[SONYES]

Yes they do. CD quality encoding isn't the best any more. These days many listeners use FLAC (uncompressed audio) or DSD. I'm not too bothered with the file quality because most of the audio encoders today are very good, and it's not easy to tell compressed audio from uncompressed in a blind test. As long as the sound is of good quality, I'm fine, regardless whether it's a 256 kbps file, or DSD.

PS. You do know that CD audio quality is actually 16bits with 44khz sampling, which is one of the lower standard formats used today.

I just read what you wrote about the headphones amplifier
Of SONY Z1ES
And headphones
I ordered the headphones now without canceling the deal
This
this is final
I want the headphones after your impressions
With this special Walkman amplifier

I was more interested in headphones
Apparently, there are better suggestions for the corresponding amplifier
TO Z1R

I had an OPPO 105
No file from anything you mentioned except DSD
And I tried everything against the CD source

Sounds best in the original CD

And all this through the OPPO 105 DAC and REGA DAC

Thank you for your comments

Very important to me

Indeed I ordered the headphones probably one day might be a legend like the R10

 

[SONYES]

Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah
I have a SONY MDR-Z1R
The whole story and pictures below

 

[SONYES]

I actually have them for a few hours

Simply offered for sale here in Israel
So I happened to see this ad
I did not know at all about the existence of this wonderful couple and everything that came around with him
The truth did not interest me a thing because I was only going through the loudspeakers all the time

In short
I checked a few options in front of Amazon US / UK

I drove at 100 km to one direction
You have something like 60 miles

I saw them and immediately bought them
I took test instruments only for testing
I arrived at 2.00 am home and went to sleep at 4.30am

In a new situation, there are no signs of use, nor did they pass through a running bake

To my utter amazement, I have already proposed the P-1U
SELL
Along with my new HD800 pair
Suddenly it turns out that
The wonderful works with SONY controls the bass is open and it's not the same amp that I've known for years

In short, a full description of all of my impressions in future posts
Maybe I'll open a new post
Or add to the title what you say

MDR-Z1R in classical music ???

Thanks for watching and reading

 

[Witcher]

So... any issues about the bass and soundstage?

 

[SONYES]

So... any issues about the bass and soundstage?

The stage width is amazing
Almost does not hear much differences between HD800 and
Z1R
The advantage of HD800 is really limited
Tested on discs with amazing stage widths
1. Mahler's Symphony No. 4 of Bernstein 1960
2. Carnival of the Animals Arthur Fiedler 1959 RCA LEVING STEREO
3.Mahler 2 SOLTI DECCA 1966
4. Othello 1962 DECCA KARAJAN

I'm just overwhelmed by the separation in these recordings

It should be remembered that headphones are really new only until now perhaps 15 hours
barely

I also fall off the chair from the LUXMAN P-1U amplifier
Places the musicians right in the position
And Dynamic Rang
Simply amazing
Just hear small details
As the rotation of the wheels of recording tape in Mahler 2 SOLTI

They said here that Z1R is dark and so there are so many small details
Suddenly they go out !!!!
MARANTZ SA-11 S1 XLR OUT
BY QENTRLUM BLACK
TO
INPUT XLR
IN P-1U

WOW WOW This is a completely different amplifier than I know with HD800 3 pairs
I went through all the headphones AT-W1000X DT-880/990
and so on.

Bass
Well here lots and lots depends on recording and there are places to drop you over
but
At least from what I remember so well from the DENON D-7000
At the Opera Madame Betarpley was a place of bom in the Strip 2
I actually heard it so loud with the D7000
And it was at least 5 years ago with no amplifier like today
And CD SACD SONY SCD-1

It does not exist today and you hear just like the HD800 in the exact location of the HD800

Well at the opening of Othello there is a very low ton of organ
In the score
Throughout the opening the HD800 sounded in a location with everyone around ok
but ...............
With Z1R
You hear it's a organ
But suddenly hear details I have not heard before if that CD player SA-11 S1 / SLP-990
On hd800

Lots and lots depends on the recording in the same room in rasonnas
It sounds completely different with the Z1R

I still have not heard that I suddenly have to go through all the discs
My test
Their assault on music goes far beyond the HD800

At Prokofiev's No. 3 concert with Yefim Brofman and Zubin Mehta
And the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra
Excellent to super really great
With the SLP-990 player with its incredible brilliance relative to any other player I have
Sounds good at the Z1R in the HD800 is really great. but i have to retern to it .more.
Everything relates to my first couple of 3 and there is only the number 3 added
2 sold

Amazing amazing bass marble .I have not heard anything like this in earphones yet
Of all the types I had including the D7000 there is nothing to compare.

Continuing impressions I realize slowly
Discovers something new.

Z1R also weighs heavily on the ear when pressed and should be loosened
Rainbow in my case. over my haed
Bass also becomes a comfort to the ear without losing all the details
And high.

Later I will relate to other things - it was a bit of what I have to tell

So far I was afraid I was sacrificing my hologram in Z1R
But with my discs
Full deep and full high also.

I heard a CD of EMI Yurgo Dallars singing Theodorakis
Recorded in Athens 1995
Amazing sitting in the first row
I would be happy to upload pictures and the like
Thanks

 

[SONYES]

I came to judge the separation - in 3D's look on stage like
On a podium
Or the first lines you see the entire orchestra.
The SONY Z1R
does not lose anything compared to the HD800
The width of the Z1R's front-facing HD800 is really superb.
In some ways
The location of the microphones in the hall up to what distance they had absorbed the hall
The limits of the hall.
That's what gives us the experience of the concert being there.
The sounds fade into the hall
And it was recorded in many recordings.
Especially classical ones in churches and in really good halls.
for example
I hear details in the low register as well as the noise and low noise level generated as a result of cars outside the hall
in the recording of Ramsky Korsakov's Golden Rooster with a Columbia recording of the 1960s with Ormandy
He immediately hears Rumble just before the first note
On the recording
Just like a huge speaker in my room and I have such a small, special speaker
Is Morale Israel Octav Sigenzir 5.2

I was just beginning to listen to the headset again after a relatively long period of time,
z1r is
almost beyond the speakers -
I have heard headphones for several years even though I had a YAMAHA NS1000M

 

[Witcher]

Congratulations on the Z1R then. I have also found that the soundstage for the Sony is sometimes more accurate than the HD800S. And like I said, the bass will be fine, and more suited for some classical pieces than the HD800S. I take it you have also ordered the Sony TAZH1ES?

 

[SONYES]

Congratulations on the Z1R then. I have also found that the soundstage for the Sony is sometimes more accurate than the HD800S. And like I said, the bass will be fine, and more suited for some classical pieces than the HD800S. I take it you have also ordered the Sony TAZH1ES?

Thank you for your greetings
The width and depth and height of the stage I have the original HD800
Still with 2 pairs they are with two different sound signatures.
Z1R here in this sense I hear the whole stage wide
A giant from right to left
With layers of first violins and two Violas CHLOS and contrabasses
Well-well are heard on the sides of the stage in a location as recorded in Symphony No. 4 with Bernstein 1960, both in height and in depth.
This is a surprise. Because I thought that I was going to lose something, but apparently not.

It is still clear that the stage in the SONY Z1R is most surprising and must say outstanding
Last night I heard Bach's 565 with an excellent recording by Simon Preston at DGG
The SONY MDR-Z1R is really awesome
3D hearing.
HD800 is also good .
not to say it is not like this but here
The Z1R
Above and beyond expectations

I found something interesting up in there is a bass-reflex port
Just like there's on the loudspeaker
I covered it with tape

Bass is restrained and I'm only at the stage of the experiment

The problem is unusual for her ears closed because there is some load on the ear
especially LONG TIME ON HI VOL...
The HD800 has a sound that resembles electrostatic speakers
SONY MDR-Z1R
IS NOT .
"IT IS AS BIG SPEAKERS ON YOUR HEAD. BUT NOT"

Sony TAZH1ES NOT YET.
THE LUXMAN P-1U +SONY MDR-Z1R IS SUPERB AMP

 

[Witcher]

Thank you for your greetings
The width and depth and height of the stage I have the original HD800
Still with 2 pairs they are with two different sound signatures.
Z1R here in this sense I hear the whole stage wide
A giant from right to left
With layers of first violins and two Violas CHLOS and contrabasses
Well-well are heard on the sides of the stage in a location as recorded in Symphony No. 4 with Bernstein 1960, both in height and in depth.
This is a surprise. Because I thought that I was going to lose something, but apparently not.

It is still clear that the stage in the SONY Z1R is most surprising and must say outstanding
Last night I heard Bach's 565 with an excellent recording by Simon Preston at DGG
The SONY MDR-Z1R is really awesome
3D hearing.
HD800 is also good .
not to say it is not like this but here
The Z1R
Above and beyond expectations

I found something interesting up in there is a bass-reflex port
Just like there's on the loudspeaker
I covered it with tape

Bass is restrained and I'm only at the stage of the experiment

The problem is unusual for her ears closed because there is some load on the ear
especially LONG TIME ON HI VOL...
The HD800 has a sound that resembles electrostatic speakers
SONY MDR-Z1R
IS NOT .
"IT IS AS BIG SPEAKERS ON YOUR HEAD. BUT NOT"

Sony TAZH1ES NOT YET.
THE LUXMAN P-1U +SONY MDR-Z1R IS SUPERB AMP

Hahahaha... I'm glad you are enjoying the headphones. They are superb indeed. Some might like them, some might not. At the end of the day, it's about how much you enjoy the music you hear from them. Another piece I find better on the Z1R is Bizet: Carmen Act 1: "L'amour est un oiseau rebelle" (Simon Rattle, Berlin Philharmonic), where the choral section is much louder on the HD800 because it's open and you have to turn up the volume a little to hear the details on the solo vocal. On the Z1R, that dynamic range is still there, but because of the silence, you can turn it down a little, and the choral section isn't as deafening.

But yes, the 70mm drivers are quite something.

 

[Witcher]

I had an OPPO 105
No file from anything you mentioned except DSD
And I tried everything against the CD source

Sounds best in the original CD

I forgot to mention, this is an important point. If you are happy with the sound quality of CD (as am I), then that's all you need. There is no need to go and hunt for the highest resolution of file qualities, like FLAC, DSD, etc... If CD works, so be it. Just enjoy the music.