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Sony MDR-Z1R In classical music

Discussion in 'Headphones (full-size)' started by SONYES, Aug 22, 2017.

IS Sony MDR-Z1R suitable for classical music

  1. SONY FOR classical music

  2. classical music IS NOT FOR Sony MDR-Z1R

  3. AND WAY ...

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    I did hear differences
    The bottom line
    For classical music
    Now I hear if my other couple HD800 are
    He's more bassy in his sound
    And must admit that
    This too sometimes feels a little emphasis on Bass Lin on low string instruments
    Even though they were so precisely right for my first couple

    I am so incomplete with this purchase.
    Because of the character everyone says is bass
    I had the same D7000 DENON
    That's why I sold them

    I read here

    The differences with comparisons to other
    But not mine

    A very real criticism in my opinion is accurate because he listens to classical music here, which is my interest

    On the one hand I want them Z1R
    On the other hand I may be disappointed
    And hold them in a closet just like my second pair of HD800
    They aim more at full bass than the bass
    In the first pair

    In short do not know what to do I have the time to think again
    Because just before writing these lines

    I canceled the Buying

    Now they have one more in stock
  2. Witcher
    That's sad then. I could've told you the Z1R is fine with the Sony PHA-3 dac/amp, which won't cost you as much as the TA-ZH1ES. I use the Z1R with my PHA-3 on PC, and my WM1A alone, and they are both fine, with no bass swell. It's just a very nice smooth and relaxing signature.
    SONYES likes this.
    I can always buy enough in the shops

    Thank you for sharing your opinion
    I love only the best
    And amplifier as TA-ZH1ES IS FOR ME.
    Is different from what you have PHA-3.
    Even though it is 1000 dollars.

    I do not know what to decide and it's not a matter of money

    What I want to hear is a huge big deep wide with the ambience of the hall
    With good separation
    A musical instrument just like a recording
    The bass really bothers me too much
    And that's a problem
    But in a bass blow it is excellent and desirable but
    Usually there are smears in works such as Schubert and Beethoven Mahler
    Also depends on recording especially.

    Another important point
    The team of engineers at the company are young guys today who hear files from computer and pop rock music and so on
    I'm an old-fashioned man of compact disc
    Recordings of time 60/70 RCA/CBS/DGG/DECCA.......

    And so wants a piece of art by Sony
    Just like I have
  4. Whitigir
    Z1R is for modern music, especially modern pop and or EDM.....not classical
    SONYES likes this.
    That's exactly what I'm afraid of

    Because engineers are young guys
    Not exactly in their heads
    Tosca of Puccini with Lautin Price
  6. Whitigir
    I really wouldn't blame it on the engineers, Sony has more than enough knowledge to pull out many things. This is more like a marketing team in decisions and directions of what is to sell and passing down to the engineer for this. I still think regardless of engineers, if Sony want to pull out R10 again, they can....would the company want to take up that way ? Hard to say, but one thing for sure is that Z1R is easier to sell than R10 if it is made available again. That is because most of nowadays musics are all computer made more than real instruments, and then bass is easier to listen Than glaring instruments without bass :D just my 2 cents

    I do dream of a day where Sony would bring out an improved R10 one again
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2017
    SONYES likes this.
    I think you could not define it better
    R10 This is my direction and yours
    But it is not possible today to buy at a reasonable price
    The target audience of this equipment is young FOR MDR-Z1R.
    And no
    Me with the ears of an adult.
    Already in relation to them.
    A man from the old world.
    This is me .
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  8. Witcher
    I don't know how to explain this to you, so I'll just show you. My test track for the Z1R when I auditioned it were all like these , as in they were all from this band:

    The soundstage I got hearing these tracks (on my phone) on the Z1R was what sold me. Hearing those Daiko drums thump away, the Shamisen and the Kotos ringing out, and most importantly, Yuko Suzuhana's voice shine was key for me. The Z1R performed amazingly for this, even besting the HD800S.
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2017
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  10. Whitigir
    I do give credit to Z1R for it soundstage :). Very wonderful
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  11. SONYES
    Thanks for the excellent example
    Yes it sounds amazing and even more Japanese

    But it's okay just for this trek
    I do not hear this music

    Symphonies Large recording operas with many very wide musicians
    As much as possible
    As of DECCA
    the HD800S.
  12. SONYES

    Symphonies Large recording operas with many very wide musicians
    As much as possible
  13. Witcher
    I keep telling you this isn't the problem with the Z1R. The soundstage is wide enough to accomodate the full orchestra. It has the widest soundstage I've ever heard from a closed headphone.
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2017
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  14. Whitigir
    Yes, this is very true, and this attribute together with the strong bass and closed back is an almost magical combinations to cramp together in 1 design. The only thing with Z1R is the tonal balances and it timbres which is more tuned toward modern pop and EDM. Though, R10 can have even wider soundstage when you amp it right :D....so for a modern current productions, the Z1R may have been the widest and tallest soundstage for a closed back, but Sony can do better
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  15. SONYES

    But what scares me is the amount of low frequencies and also
    Laboratory tests have shown that there is more bass and bass as than in HD800 for example.

    When for example an orchestra plays the whole chapter of Mahler's Second Symphony SOLTI 1981

    I might not be able to know until I hear the Z1R with the amplifier I have
    I think that Lyman Audio Linar BCL
    Would be appropriate because it is relatively open to P-1U

    Or for example playing as Othello's opening recording of DECCA KARAJAN 1962
    There is bass and a low-frequency organ
    will hear one big salad
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