SONY IER-Z1R
Feb 16, 2023 at 6:23 PM Post #13,306 of 15,233
I'm not convinced that the LL silicone tips that came with the Z1Rs are the best size for my ears. Does anyone know if a LLL stock tip exists? Or one that approximates what it WOULD be if they existed?
 
Feb 16, 2023 at 7:14 PM Post #13,307 of 15,233
I'm not convinced that the LL silicone tips that came with the Z1Rs are the best size for my ears. Does anyone know if a LLL stock tip exists? Or one that approximates what it WOULD be if they existed?
Spinfit makes an XL.

I’m a big ear guy and find you need to go smaller for deeper insertion. I’m using the M and the ML. On my other iems I’m L or XL.
 
Feb 16, 2023 at 7:33 PM Post #13,308 of 15,233
14mm tips are the only ones I've had success with on other IEMs. I'll try the smaller tips, though, just to see what they're like.
 
Feb 16, 2023 at 9:58 PM Post #13,309 of 15,233
I'm not convinced that the LL silicone tips that came with the Z1Rs are the best size for my ears. Does anyone know if a LLL stock tip exists? Or one that approximates what it WOULD be if they existed?

You can use AZLA crystal L size 14mm if you want, or go smaller with deeper insertion as @Daniel Johnston suggested too.
azla crystal and spinfit W1 sounded better for me rather than original eartips
 
Feb 17, 2023 at 2:54 AM Post #13,310 of 15,233
You can use AZLA crystal L size 14mm if you want, or go smaller with deeper insertion as @Daniel Johnston suggested too.
azla crystal and spinfit W1 sounded better for me rather than original eartips
I use Azla Crystal L and deep insertion due to the size of my ear canal otherwise I don’t get a good seal
 
Feb 17, 2023 at 3:59 AM Post #13,311 of 15,233
I use Azla Crystal L and deep insertion due to the size of my ear canal otherwise I don’t get a good seal
Wow, azla's L size is considered oneof the biggest size of any eartips. You must be struggle to find eartips that can give you great seal. Practically spinfit W1 cant give you perfect seal, also lot of eartips
But luckily there are eartips comes with extra large size, moondrop spring have XL 14mm too, azla (any variants) L size also 14mm.
So short nozzle IEMs can be tough for you.
 
Feb 17, 2023 at 6:00 AM Post #13,312 of 15,233
Wow, azla's L size is considered oneof the biggest size of any eartips. You must be struggle to find eartips that can give you great seal. Practically spinfit W1 cant give you perfect seal, also lot of eartips
But luckily there are eartips comes with extra large size, moondrop spring have XL 14mm too, azla (any variants) L size also 14mm.
So short nozzle IEMs can be tough for you.
My JH13 ciem shells together with the Z1R, the Z1R almost look small in comparison

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Feb 17, 2023 at 9:41 AM Post #13,313 of 15,233
14mm tips are the only ones I've had success with on other IEMs. I'll try the smaller tips, though, just to see what they're like.
I use Azla Crystal L and deep insertion due to the size of my ear canal otherwise I don’t get a good seal
You can also email 64Audio to order XL tips, that come in 16mm. I use them so I don't have to use deeper insertion. It's another option for those of us with big canals.

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Feb 17, 2023 at 10:39 AM Post #13,314 of 15,233
You can also email 64Audio to order XL tips, that come in 16mm. I use them so I don't have to use deeper insertion. It's another option for those of us with big canals.

64 Audio tips.jpg
Oh, that's a lovely cable, too. What is it?
 
Feb 17, 2023 at 12:08 PM Post #13,315 of 15,233
Oh, that's a lovely cable, too. What is it?
Thanks! That's my (now vintage, I guess) Effect Audio Eros II 8 wire. It's a cable I've had for the longest period of any others, and I had it changed to Z1R mmcx connectors.
 
Feb 18, 2023 at 1:40 PM Post #13,316 of 15,233
Z1R nightmare come to life. Just received and was trying out this Ali cable:
US $100.00 | LN006474 Blue 99% Pure Silver XLR 3.5mm 2.5mm 4.4mm Earphone Cable For Sony IER-M7 IER-M9 IER-Z1R
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPGhQEw

I was surprised how snug and secure the mmcx connectors worked, but the cable was advertised for the Z1R. Sound was terrific. Now the nightmare.

I cannot easily detach the snug mmcx, but after working at it they detached (and in the process the left connector fell off). Try to connect the stock cable, but it's not going in. What the eff!?

Upon closer inspection, the outer sheath of the mmcx pins on both sides dislodged inside both Z1R connectors. And I can't get them out. Holy f$&king crap!

I now have to DIY myself if possible and try to get these tiny things out of the Z1R mmcx sockets! Anyone had this problem and successfully solved it!? I'm pissed, should have stuck with stock cable, but alas, I'm in this hobby.


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Feb 18, 2023 at 2:00 PM Post #13,317 of 15,233
Z1R nightmare come to life. Just received and was trying out this Ali cable:
US $100.00 | LN006474 Blue 99% Pure Silver XLR 3.5mm 2.5mm 4.4mm Earphone Cable For Sony IER-M7 IER-M9 IER-Z1R
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPGhQEw

I was surprised how snug and secure the mmcx connectors worked, but the cable was advertised for the Z1R. Sound was terrific. Now the nightmare.

I cannot easily detach the snug mmcx, but after working at it they detached (and in the process the left connector fell off). Try to connect the stock cable, but it's not going in. What the eff!?

Upon closer inspection, the outer sheath of the mmcx pins on both sides dislodged inside both Z1R connectors. And I can't get them out. Holy f$&king crap!

I now have to DIY myself if possible and try to get these tiny things out of the Z1R mmcx sockets! Anyone had this problem and successfully solved it!? I'm pissed, should have stuck with stock cable, but alas, I'm in this hobby.


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Really sorry to hear this. I have my heart in my mouth every time I detach a cable from Z1R. I have my 'endgame' Z1R cable coming on Monday and hopefully won't be removing it for a long time. Good luck, let us know how you go.
 
Feb 18, 2023 at 2:13 PM Post #13,318 of 15,233
@emdeevee
this does not look good. i wish you all the best in figuring out how to manage it.

@gLer
what is the endgame now?
 
Feb 18, 2023 at 2:29 PM Post #13,319 of 15,233
Hello
take me years and finally had fun removed and mod as per previous headfier here
1- use 3M dense foam both side sticky (red) and almost block 80% sound (too dense vs stock foam) , good way but too dense!
2- finally use regular foam cut approx 5mm and use filter mesh ( can find easily on Ali)
3- Mesh stick to foam and keep away from driver, mesh protect wax and dirt more than less dense foam
love what i hear, nice base , treble more clarity and detail kudos to whitigir
regards
take me approx 15 min to removed OG foam, tired and settle on second trial mod (less dense foam), sorry for crappy photo on old iphone
 

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Feb 18, 2023 at 2:34 PM Post #13,320 of 15,233
Really sorry to hear this. I have my heart in my mouth every time I detach a cable from Z1R. I have my 'endgame' Z1R cable coming on Monday and hopefully won't be removing it for a long time. Good luck, let us know how you go.
Assuming I can salvage these, a big if, I may just reconnect the stock cable and never remove it again. Eff me.
 

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