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I have been having good results with the SednaFit Crystal too
Yes I have, and just compared them directly again to refresh my memory.had you tried final e ear tips i use those when i want the bass on my m7
Any improvement in sound with the gu cable?I have used the fiio fc3.5c (silver plated copper) and recently gu.craftsman single crystal silver. The tighter ear hooks did affect the fit so if the seal has been compromised it could have the effect you are describing of forward/sharper mids.
I am hating that I prefer the m9 stock cable and have just wasted this money on cables (learning experience). The stock cable is light the light ear guides/hooks actually allow more freedom with the insertion angle depth. It is also the least microphonic which is important for listening on the move.
Picture of gu.craftsman because I don't think there is one on the internet yet:
I just put it on again to test then and I didn't notice anything. Im not sure if I'm a believer in audible changes from cable changes but I'm open to try and hear it.Any improvement in sound with the gu cable?
Thanks, you just saved my 130 bucks. Ordered the same cable for my HD 650 though (stock senn cables are too long and heavy for my taste). I noticed noticeable improvement in cable swap in only two instances (Final e4000 with alo litz, stock cable is peaky in the lower treble. Moon audio silver dragon with Hifiman Susvara. Midrange gets considerable improvement. Same cable makes the Abyss 1266 phi tc somewhat listenable. Still a crappy headphone lol)I just put it on again to test then and I didn't notice anything. Im not sure if I'm a believer in audible changes from cable changes but I'm open to try and hear it.
The m9 to me does seem better on balanced cable but I can't tell the difference between those cables.
There is a simple elegance to the original that of course I didn't realise until after spending reasonable money on upgrade cables!
The gu cable does look and feel nice with secure earhooks but I was a bit disappointed that there was a bit of paint imperfections on the mmcx sleeve.
Thank you for your input. Is that cable somewhat blueish one priced around 150 usd? I saw a review on aliexpress with m9. looks great. CEMA and Gu Craftsman makes excellent cables for the price.Regarding the cable influence I have been using the M9 with the cable from the IER-Z1R and the CEMA PS.
In terms of handling and feel the Sony cables are the best I have ever used.
The only real issue is the deterioration of the ear hook, which is really disappointing. Mine is about 1,5 years old and the hooks are decomposing and sticky.
I ordered the CEMA PS after some good experiences with their cheaper MS cable on other IEMs.
Why the PS? Because I was not ready to pay $400 on the very well reviewed Tianwaitian cable, and the PS is using similar materials.
I was hoping for a bit more forward mids and more open staging.
Sonically there is a pretty significant difference between the PS and the Z1R cable.
Compared to the PS, the Z1R cable sounds a bit congested, a bit muffled, the stage is narrower.
Bass loses a little punch. It also sounds as if the volume is a bit lower.
The only thing I could consider an advantage of the Z1R cable is a somewhat more forward male vocal presentation, where the PS pushes it a little further out into the stage and mix.
Other than that the PS just gives a clearer, snappier and more open presentation with better separation and definition.
It almost feels as if it elevates bass and upper midrange a bit and is generally louder.
In short - IMO a worthwhile upgrade for the M9.
Leaves me wondering how good that Tianwaitian may be...
Tested with:
Chord Hugo 2 (source TIDAL Hifi via iPhone and Meenova cable)
Tips: Spiral Dots++
Songs: Pineapple thief "White Mist", David Fesilyan "Drum Warfare", IU "Love Poem"
The IER-Z1R is complicated because it's basically made of three tweeters.I had the chance to audition a friend Z1R a week ago and I have to say I was a bit disappointed? Perhaps they require good seal like the M9, though I just expected a more noticeable difference in impact especially with the DD handling the bass. The mild V really made some higher pitch things sparkle and the sub bass was quite nice but not exactly my taste.
Anyhow, these still reign as the pickiest IEM I've dealt with. I went from M hybrids to ML comforts and was shocked by how much warmer they sounded at the expense of rolled off treble. Now I'm back on the hybrids in the SS size and finally have a combination of treble and just enough seal for bass without that suction cup ear feel. I'm still very impressed by the balance these strike in terms of technicality, tuning, and comfort.
That review is from me and the cable is this one:Thank you for your input. Is that cable somewhat blueish one priced around 150 usd? I saw a review on aliexpress with m9. looks great. CEMA and Gu Craftsman makes excellent cables for the price.
Thanks for the explanation. I’m especially surprised that the M9 super tweeter is used for the Z1R midrange. That just makes it even more impressive that the Z1R sounds so coherent.The IER-Z1R is complicated because it's basically made of three tweeters.
The 12mm DD is basically a big tweeter (capable of up to 100KHz!)
The midrange BA is the same BA the IER-M9 uses as super tweeter
And then there is the dedicated super tweeter
Also the bass quality of the IER-M9 is insane, I think most people compare the IER-Z1R to ""normal"" aka boring IEM and then, the IER-Z1R does have insane bass
You are juat saying false information here. It is not made of 3 tweeters. The Z1R has three driversWThe IER-Z1R is complicated because it's basically made of three tweeters.