So, the Objective2 headphone amp - designed entirely around the measurements? (PLEASE READ RULES BEFORE POSTING)
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You're right, I forgot that objective and substantive are sort of antonyms in this thread.
 
 
Substantive? Or did you mean to say subjective?
 
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Lots of attitude flowing around here. If you are interested in the amp, build one or wait for listeners impressions. Let the amp stand on it's own merits, or lack thereof if it is in fact the case. This isn't an expensive project, so anyone experimenting with it shouldn't be surprised if it doesn't suit them. They know the risks when investing in the design. Is the design limited with input voltage? Yes, but it can be adjusted for to a degree. That's the best part of DIY.

Who cares who designed it. Build it or don't. It's your call.
 
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Lots of attitude flowing around here. If you are interested in the amp, build one or wait for listeners impressions. Let the amp stand on it's own merits, or lack thereof if it is in fact the case. This isn't an expensive project, so anyone experimenting with it shouldn't be surprised if it doesn't suit them. They know the risks when investing in the design. Is the design limited with input voltage? Yes, but it can be adjusted for to a degree. That's the best part of DIY.

Who cares who designed it. Build it or don't. It's your call.
 
Well said!
 
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No, I meant exactly what I said, substantive.
 
 
Ok.
 
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Substantive? Or did you mean to say subjective?
 
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I think he meant to say noun.
 
This thread is only getting better and better.
 
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I'm not so sure about folks who claim this amp sounds like "nothing," without ever having heard it.  I believe that lacks a bit, no, a lot, of substance. 
 
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I'm not so sure about folks who claim this amp sounds like "nothing," without ever having heard it.  I believe that lacks a bit, no, a lot, of substance. 

Then would you please, as I requested, explain why it wouldn't when the measurements say it will? That's the least you can do if you're going to bring the topic up.
 
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Then would you please, as I requested, explain why it wouldn't when the measurements say it will? That's the least you can do if you're going to bring the topic up.

I'll be happy to wait for actual subjective and substantive, as well as objective measurement reports.  If modeling were a perfect predictor in any discipline, there would never be a need for prototyping anything, from amplifiers to airplanes.
 
What does your experience tell you?
 
 
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More on topic here:
 
How does this amp "sound?"  Or does that not matter as long as somebody is happy with a few selective measurements?


"few selective measurements" Can you explain what you mean by this? 
 
There are pages of measurements. 
 
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"few selective measurements" Can you explain what you mean by this? 
 
There are pages of measurements. 
It doesn't need to be rehashed, yet again.  I'll wait for the proof of the pudding.  Thanks.  You can always re-read the thread.
 
 
 
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I'll be happy to wait for actual subjective and substantive, as well as objective measurement reports.  If modeling were a perfect predictor in any discipline, there would never be a need for prototyping anything, from amplifiers to airplanes.
 
What does your experience tell you?
 

"subjective and substantive" is an oxymoron in this case.
 
Of course a prototype is needed. The measurements we've been given are not models. They are measurements of the prototype.
 
What do you mean, my experience? With audio equipment? My experience tells me that a low distortion headphone and a low distortion DAC/amp is heavenly.
 
You continue to dodge my request. Would it be too much to ask an administrator to stop trolling?
 
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"subjective and substantive" is an oxymoron in this case.
 
Of course a prototype is needed. The measurements we've been given are not models. They are measurements of the prototype.
 
What do you mean, my experience? With audio equipment? My experience tells me that a low distortion headphone and a low distortion DAC/amp is heavenly.
 
You continue to dodge my request. Would it be too much to ask an administrator to stop trolling?
We see what we look for.
 
 
 
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