Dec 24, 2022 at 3:38 PM Post #14,401 of 16,944
I have a request... For those the have Pure Audio Blu-rays... I'd appreciate if you could let me know of any disks in your collection that include binaural audio.. sometimes part of mShuttle.

Like this...

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Dec 24, 2022 at 3:55 PM Post #14,402 of 16,944
reading through the release of the wifi streaming auro 3d makes we wonder if they know we have been doing that for a while now :xf_cool:

Merry Xmas to everyone and here's hoping next year will be great for everyone...
 
Dec 24, 2022 at 4:50 PM Post #14,403 of 16,944
I have a request... For those the have Pure Audio Blu-rays... I'd appreciate if you could let me know of any disks in your collection that include binaural audio.. sometimes part of mShuttle.

Like this...

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Besides Hazar Reincarnated, I’ve got 3 Pure Audio Blu-ray discs that include binaural audio as part of mShuttle technology. Some time ago, I sent an email message to IAN Productions and asked them how did they get the binaural files, either by recording with a dummy head or with the software in their mixing devices? The answer was the second option.
 

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Dec 24, 2022 at 5:42 PM Post #14,404 of 16,944
Besides Hazar Reincarnated, I’ve got 3 Pure Audio Blu-ray discs that include binaural audio as part of mShuttle technology. Some time ago, I sent an email message to IAN Productions and asked them how did they get the binaural files, either by recording with a dummy head or with the software in their mixing devices? The answer was the second option.
Awesome! Thanks
 
Dec 24, 2022 at 8:50 PM Post #14,406 of 16,944
I appreciate all of the detailed descriptions of your set ups. There are many factors to consider and sort out! Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences. I hope you all have a joyous and peaceful holiday season!
If you read between the lines, you'll probably detect that there are two fundamental differences in all of our equipment setups: either WITH or WITHOUT an AVR involved. This is very critical in planning out how everything in your system is interconnected. Adding an A16 and possible DAC, and possible headphone amp, this obviously complicates how things are cabled together even further, but it's the presence or absence of an AVR which is probably the biggest single design factor.

If you have an AVR then you tend to route things through it as the "central hub". And then video out of the AVR goes to one input of the TV. Audio from speakers is handled by the AVR. The A16 is an INPUT device into the AVR, and multiple A/V sources would be fed into the A16 for headphone-delivered audio. Video from the A/V sources is passed through the A16 to the AVR, and then on to the TV. Some variations on this simple straightforward theme are common as well, for odd or unusual situations, but basically this is what a diagram would look like.

Any setup that does NOT involve an AVR and speakers would involve using the multiple source HDMI inputs of a TV as the "hub", perhaps with speaker sound coming from the internal TV speakers or maybe from a soundbar fed via ARC/eARC from the TV. Or, perhaps the soundbar is the source hub, into which sources are at fed and out of which the TV is connected. Again, the A16 is arranged either into the soundbar or TV, or perhaps out of the TV via ARC/eARC.

Or, perhaps the A16 itself is the primary "hub", feeding video to the TV. Optional use of a soundbar is just a bit more complicated, but the essence here is to feed A/V sources directly into the A16 which makes primary headphone listening very straightforward.

Our A16 world is not simple.
 
Dec 24, 2022 at 9:50 PM Post #14,407 of 16,944
If you read between the lines, you'll probably detect that there are two fundamental differences in all of our equipment setups: either WITH or WITHOUT an AVR involved. This is very critical in planning out how everything in your system is interconnected. Adding an A16 and possible DAC, and possible headphone amp, this obviously complicates how things are cabled together even further, but it's the presence or absence of an AVR which is probably the biggest single design factor.

If you have an AVR then you tend to route things through it as the "central hub". And then video out of the AVR goes to one input of the TV. Audio from speakers is handled by the AVR. The A16 is an INPUT device into the AVR, and multiple A/V sources would be fed into the A16 for headphone-delivered audio. Video from the A/V sources is passed through the A16 to the AVR, and then on to the TV. Some variations on this simple straightforward theme are common as well, for odd or unusual situations, but basically this is what a diagram would look like.

Any setup that does NOT involve an AVR and speakers would involve using the multiple source HDMI inputs of a TV as the "hub", perhaps with speaker sound coming from the internal TV speakers or maybe from a soundbar fed via ARC/eARC from the TV. Or, perhaps the soundbar is the source hub, into which sources are at fed and out of which the TV is connected. Again, the A16 is arranged either into the soundbar or TV, or perhaps out of the TV via ARC/eARC.

Or, perhaps the A16 itself is the primary "hub", feeding video to the TV. Optional use of a soundbar is just a bit more complicated, but the essence here is to feed A/V sources directly into the A16 which makes primary headphone listening very straightforward.

Our A16 world is not simple.
I use an OPPO 103D connected to the A16 via HDMI. I either (1)play discs, or (2)use the OPPO to source material already stored on an NAS drive, and then feed that material into the A16. The OPPO then also simultaneously feeds video to the flat screen television via HDMI. I may someday purchase an AVR again.
 
Dec 24, 2022 at 10:13 PM Post #14,408 of 16,944
I use an OPPO 103D connected to the A16 via HDMI. I either (1)play discs, or (2)use the OPPO to source material already stored on an NAS drive, and then feed that material into the A16. The OPPO then also simultaneously feeds video to the flat screen television via HDMI. I may someday purchase an AVR again.
I have the same setup.. but also use my A16 for Roon playback via my Oppo... All via one HDMI connection.
 
Dec 25, 2022 at 2:50 AM Post #14,410 of 16,944
If you read between the lines, you'll probably detect that there are two fundamental differences in all of our equipment setups: either WITH or WITHOUT an AVR involved. This is very critical in planning out how everything in your system is interconnected. Adding an A16 and possible DAC, and possible headphone amp, this obviously complicates how things are cabled together even further, but it's the presence or absence of an AVR which is probably the biggest single design factor.

If you have an AVR then you tend to route things through it as the "central hub". And then video out of the AVR goes to one input of the TV. Audio from speakers is handled by the AVR. The A16 is an INPUT device into the AVR, and multiple A/V sources would be fed into the A16 for headphone-delivered audio. Video from the A/V sources is passed through the A16 to the AVR, and then on to the TV. Some variations on this simple straightforward theme are common as well, for odd or unusual situations, but basically this is what a diagram would look like.

Any setup that does NOT involve an AVR and speakers would involve using the multiple source HDMI inputs of a TV as the "hub", perhaps with speaker sound coming from the internal TV speakers or maybe from a soundbar fed via ARC/eARC from the TV. Or, perhaps the soundbar is the source hub, into which sources are at fed and out of which the TV is connected. Again, the A16 is arranged either into the soundbar or TV, or perhaps out of the TV via ARC/eARC.

Or, perhaps the A16 itself is the primary "hub", feeding video to the TV. Optional use of a soundbar is just a bit more complicated, but the essence here is to feed A/V sources directly into the A16 which makes primary headphone listening very straightforward.

Our A16 world is not simple.
I think that in addition to setups that involve a Realiser A16unit, an AVR and speakers, one might take into consideration a Realiser A16 unit provided with an additional speaker function, aka as Realiser A16 Speaker Edition (SE) by Audio XD, which can convey analogue or digital signals to passive or active speakers.

Unfortunately, your statement “Our A16 world is not simple” came true for one of the Realiser A16 owners, who is selling his Realiser A16 unit because it is too sophisticated for his own use.
https://www.head-fi.org/classifieds/smyth-realiser-a16-brand-new.38420/
 
Dec 25, 2022 at 3:15 AM Post #14,411 of 16,944
I think that in addition to setups that involve a Realiser A16unit, an AVR and speakers, one might take into consideration a Realiser A16 unit provided with an additional speaker function, aka as Realiser A16 Speaker Edition (SE) by Audio XD, which can convey analogue or digital signals to passive or active speakers.

Unfortunately, your statement “Our A16 world is not simple” came true for one of the Realiser A16 owners, who is selling his Realiser A16 unit because it is too sophisticated for his own use.
https://www.head-fi.org/classifieds/smyth-realiser-a16-brand-new.38420/
I haven't read a whole bunch of recent posts so I may be missing some context, but the speaker edition is for playing surround content on stereo speakers. You need a pair of active speakers or a stereo amp connected to two passive speakers. The standard edition of the A16 is capable of the same (acting as an AV processor without amplification), just without the surround over stereo capabilities and the presumably embedded room calibration. If you have more than two speakers then the speaker edition is not what you want.
 
Dec 25, 2022 at 3:40 AM Post #14,412 of 16,944
You’re right about the differences between Realiser A16 and Realiser A16 SE. However, for a more convenient approach I don’t think anyone with more than two available speakers would be very happy to use the Realiser A16 as an AV processor.

As far as I’m concerned, if I had more than two available speakers and a room not quite suitable for a more sophisticated arrangement (e.g., for immersive sound), I would choose the version with the Realiser A16 SE.
 
Dec 28, 2022 at 6:40 PM Post #14,413 of 16,944
You’re right about the differences between Realiser A16 and Realiser A16 SE. However, for a more convenient approach I don’t think anyone with more than two available speakers would be very happy to use the Realiser A16 as an AV processor.

As far as I’m concerned, if I had more than two available speakers and a room not quite suitable for a more sophisticated arrangement (e.g., for immersive sound), I would choose the version with the Realiser A16 SE.
Right now the conventional Realiser is feature light to use as an AV processor. There is no PEQ, no Bass Management, no LFE channel capability, and no DSP like Dirac or Auddessy. Morovoer, I think output peaks at 1.5 VRMS which may not be enough to drive most amps to clipping, so additional gain may be needed in some use cases, though that probably is not that hard to come by, especially with pro gear.

BTW, if anyone is aware of any future plans by the Smyths to update and expand the AV Processor features, please do feel free to chime right in here.
 
Dec 29, 2022 at 12:48 AM Post #14,414 of 16,944
Right now the conventional Realiser is feature light to use as an AV processor. There is no PEQ, no Bass Management, no LFE channel capability, and no DSP like Dirac or Auddessy. Morovoer, I think output peaks at 1.5 VRMS which may not be enough to drive most amps to clipping, so additional gain may be needed in some use cases, though that probably is not that hard to come by, especially with pro gear.

BTW, if anyone is aware of any future plans by the Smyths to update and expand the AV Processor features, please do feel free to chime right in here.
I think that Smyth Research should focus on fulfilling the remaining kickstarter and pre-orders in 2023. Then, they might consider various updates and expansions.
 
Dec 30, 2022 at 4:35 AM Post #14,415 of 16,944
Hi everyone, had an issue with my Realiser which is playing all my Atmos content in Dolby Audio (dolby digital) only..
It never happened before, this issue appeared when I updated to firmware 2.12 in 24 channels mode with a 12.1.10 virtual atmos room.
Please note that dolby legacy and dolby surround are off and that my content player sends output in bitstream.
 

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