Shure SE846 Impressions Thread
Nov 30, 2016 at 7:07 PM Post #16,741 of 22,945
I orderd double helix occ type 4 litz 8 braid on blk friday lucky if i get it next april. But the quality both sq and feel is top notch.
Also picked up the noble encore, give a heads up after i receive


Great! Let us know on the encore. I think dhc and norne started together and then they went their separate ways. The silvergarde is supposed to be 21 awg, whereas dhc 8 braid is equivalent to 22 awg. Very similar performance I guess. Norne's product is more reasonably priced though and so far I'm very very satisfied with my therium (I use it for my MH335DW)
 
Nov 30, 2016 at 10:06 PM Post #16,742 of 22,945
Great! Let us know on the encore. I think dhc and norne started together and then they went their separate ways. The silvergarde is supposed to be 21 awg, whereas dhc 8 braid is equivalent to 22 awg. Very similar performance I guess. Norne's product is more reasonably priced though and so far I'm very very satisfied with my therium (I use it for my MH335DW)

You're right about Trevor and Peter sharing ideas and they both get their wire from the same source. The DHC 8 wire is similar to Norne's 8 wire Therium. I lusted over an 8 wire DHC for a long time. When I was told it would be a 16 week wait and almost $800...I started doing my research. Found much shorter lead times at more reasonable costs. The 8 wire Therium and the Sivergarde are two different animals all together
 
Dec 1, 2016 at 8:56 PM Post #16,743 of 22,945


Ooooh, have I entered cable talk?

Can someone please identify what cable this is? My brother generously gave it to me as it didn't deliver what he was expecting with his Westones. I couldn't get a straight answer out of my brother regarding the manufacturer nor the person / company from he purchased it..

The Y-split connector is a touch hard to see but it features grey polker dots if that helps. :)

I''m curious as to its make, model and material.

What I do know is that it has markedly opened up the 8's sound, especially soundstage. Someone earlier mentioned their HeadphoneLounge cable negated the "bottlenecked" sound as heard when using the stock cable. Treble extends further, mids are lusher than ever and bass seems tighter, more impactful and it extends that little bit further.

However... Musicality seems to be sacrificed. I''m engaged, enthralled and all, but feel less inclined to bop my head. Is it me or is it them? And that brings me to my next question: Should I look at another cable? I can budget up to $500. Or should I be happy with how my 846s are sounding now? I''m thinking out loud here, and only I can answer the latter question, but surely there'sna reason why I feel something is amiss.
 
Dec 2, 2016 at 6:20 PM Post #16,745 of 22,945
^ I use the volume restrictor when playing music through my iDevices.

I must say fatigue is less of an issue with this new cable. (The Y-splitter may have chequers by the way, it's really hard to tell with my vision impairment).
 
Dec 2, 2016 at 7:14 PM Post #16,746 of 22,945
I need some advice. Recently, I growing weary of my 846. It's as if it's too loud. So much so that I do not want to listen to them. Is there something wrong with my ears?

I definitely experience the black filters as less "punchy" with a softer, mellower sound, so give those a try if you haven't lately.
 
To me, the experience of stereo separation is also enhanced by the black filters.
 
I usually like the "punchy" bass of the blue filters, but I indulge myself with the black filters every few weeks.
 
Terry
 
Dec 2, 2016 at 7:52 PM Post #16,747 of 22,945
Recently, I growing weary of my 846. It's as if it's too loud. So much so that I do not want to listen to them. Is there something wrong with my ears?

 
Let's hope not, because there is a condition where (through age/abuse) your eardrums become less able to protect against loud noise peaks, which results in a sensitivity to sound: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperacusis
 
I suspect there are many headfiers that exceed the WHO's daily recommended guidelines for safe listening: http://www.who.int/pbd/deafness/activities/MLS/en/
 
Your eardrums might need a rest for a while. Remember, your ears are worth more than any IEM - even more than the SE846 :)
 
Dec 2, 2016 at 7:54 PM Post #16,748 of 22,945
HeadphoneLounge replied, this ain't one of their cables. Dang it.

Edit: LOL the confusion didn't end there. It is a Ted Allan / HeadphoneLounge cable after all! Type 1 copper litz. Whoever replied to me originally musn't have known it was an older one. Winning!!
 
Dec 2, 2016 at 8:05 PM Post #16,749 of 22,945
Does anyone know if the (extremely cheap feeling) in-line volume control included with the SE846s has anything special going on inside? I’ve been using it on-the-go with the Apple lightning to 3.5mm adapter (/amp/dac) to ride the gain from track to track. And I like the tactile, rotary feel of an actual volume knob.
 
I’ve noticed that with the phone’s volume slider at 70-90% (attenuated via the inline pot to a comfortable level) the sound changes. I’m getting a fatter sound, more bass and more body overall with little to no change in the treble. Without the inline control, and the phone’s volume at only 40-50%, the sound is noticeably thinner with less bass and the treble seems more forward without the increased “body” to balance it out. I'm using modded blues in my 846s which I find perfect for listening with a Chord Mojo at home and work (obviously without the inline control when using Mojo).
 
Does this jibe with others’ experiences? What’s going on here? Are there a third-party/aftermarket volume controls that are “better” (or at least don't look/feel like something Radio Shack would’ve sold in the 70s)? Maybe a more compact, ergonomic metal version with better design and a better pot? (the channel balance falls off a cliff at very low listening levels) Also maybe one that will pass through play/pause/next/prev from an inline remote on the headphone cable (I have a few different cables I use with these)?
 
Dec 2, 2016 at 9:27 PM Post #16,750 of 22,945
I find the Shures do lose a bit at lower volumes, but perhaps going from a copper to silver litz might negate it ?
 
Dec 2, 2016 at 10:17 PM Post #16,751 of 22,945
I find the Shures do lose a bit at lower volumes, but perhaps going from a copper to silver litz might negate it ?


I actually do have a silver litz from Ted at HP Lounge. It's my "good" cable (generally use it at work or home with the Mojo). For on-the-go I tend to use a cheap cable which is more flexible and has almost zero microphonics. Also has ppnp button. Just wondering if the Shure volume control is essentially just a resistor + pot or if it's doing something more sophisticated related to impedance. It does seem to be a nice way to get the input signal level up (if that's all that's going on). Just wish it was more robust and had a couple other features (e.g. trrs).
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 12:53 AM Post #16,752 of 22,945
  Does anyone know if the (extremely cheap feeling) in-line volume control included with the SE846s has anything special going on inside? I’ve been using it on-the-go with the Apple lightning to 3.5mm adapter (/amp/dac) to ride the gain from track to track. And I like the tactile, rotary feel of an actual volume knob.
 
I’ve noticed that with the phone’s volume slider at 70-90% (attenuated via the inline pot to a comfortable level) the sound changes. I’m getting a fatter sound, more bass and more body overall with little to no change in the treble. Without the inline control, and the phone’s volume at only 40-50%, the sound is noticeably thinner with less bass and the treble seems more forward without the increased “body” to balance it out. I'm using modded blues in my 846s which I find perfect for listening with a Chord Mojo at home and work (obviously without the inline control when using Mojo).
 
Does this jibe with others’ experiences? What’s going on here? Are there a third-party/aftermarket volume controls that are “better” (or at least don't look/feel like something Radio Shack would’ve sold in the 70s)? Maybe a more compact, ergonomic metal version with better design and a better pot? (the channel balance falls off a cliff at very low listening levels) Also maybe one that will pass through play/pause/next/prev from an inline remote on the headphone cable (I have a few different cables I use with these)?

 
This volume control is nothing more but a cheap variable resistor - even the (German) Shure guys don't recommend to use it for hi-fi use but only as a (not ideal) workaround for too loud or too hiss sources, such as the headphone output in airplanes.
 
The sound change you described exactly matches the SE846's impedance response curve - adding resistance to the headphone output, the Shure's frequency response will be altered according to the impedance response curve's shape, which means more bass and thicker mids with more body and less treble.
 
If you don't want this phenomenon to happen but want to attenuate the volume down, it would be wise to get a proper adapter such as the ifi iEMatch that will add only around 1 Ohm of extra impedance with the highest attenuation setting, as it is not just a simple resistance-based adapter.
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 7:01 AM Post #16,753 of 22,945
A closer look to my SE846
 
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Dec 3, 2016 at 7:09 AM Post #16,754 of 22,945
I just got my SE846 3 days ago and god i loved it the first time i heard the bass on these
 
it's just amazing
 
 
the first earphone i had with the SE series from shure is the SE215 and i they were great with comfort and sound isolation but the bass on it wasn't that good for me
 
then i went to the SE535 hoping that it will be better and it was but still the bass isn't what am looking for after 8 months i got my SE846 and it's worth every single cent
 
 

 
Dec 3, 2016 at 5:40 PM Post #16,755 of 22,945
Im thinking about saying **** it and buying a pair of these bad boys, just a couple of questions though:
 
 
Can anyone compare the sound sig and overall performance to the Sennheiser HD25s? Id like plenty of bass and fairly upfront vocals for 90s rap music
 
and also being a listener of alot of dance music say i wanted to give the midbass a little boost, are these the type of earphones that would react will to it?
 

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