burtomr
Headphoneus Supremus
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I prefer silicon over foams any day. Easier to take in and out. No absorption of frequencies.
...don't forget NO Itchy & Scratchy
I prefer silicon over foams any day. Easier to take in and out. No absorption of frequencies.
I prefer silicon over foams any day. Easier to take in and out. No absorption of frequencies.
Star Of A Story (by Heatwave) is just the latest example of why I don't like the 846 and DX90 pairing. I first heard this song on my neighbor's Marantz system in the late 1970s. I remember the double beats of the bass-drum shaking the floor because of his huge towering speakers (that were taller than I was at the time). On the DX90, the bass drum is weak and panned right (at ear level) with part of the vocals and music in the same area. The bass-line is panned left and crammed in with the other part of the vocals and music. It's like watching a 3D HDTVs that's out of focus without the 3D glasses. The soundstage (I'm get with the DX90) is suffocating. It's so tiny and lacking in detail, separation, and energy
On the Note 3 (with V4A) the vocals are almost overhead and deep (wide right and left). The bass-line and bass-drum are only slightly off center at throat level. And, the throat rattling bass drum is heavy enough to fill the bottom of the entire soundstage. Everything seemed to be in the right place (with good layering and depth).
The song sounded weird on the DX90. On the Note 3 , it took me back (Ratatouille style) to the late 1970s. It's time to gather the DX90's included cables (and whatnot) to ship it back from which it came.
I am so very glad you made that post. The DX90 was my most likely candidate for a DAP upgrade and I think you saved me some grief as well as money.
My weapon of choice at this time remains the S4 with V4A, and I gotta tell you - it rocks. Plain and simple. V4A is largely responsible for the incredible sound, though. And incredible it is.
Seems I am again in your debt. Thank you.
So I have a question that I already know the answer to, but I feel like I should say it anyway.
The 846's increase over the 535: just how significant is it?
While hardly an expert ...
A great article on CIEM which discusses Silicone vs Acrylic and why Foam etc of UF will cause discomfort over time is below.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/totl-madness-24-top-line-custom-ear-monitors-reviewed
a choice quote:
Some readers may be thinking "What's the big deal? Universals are comfy enough." Many people suffer from moderate to intense fit issues with universals, but even if that's not a problem, I'd say you really don't know comfort until you've experienced a custom fit. Those universals may seem great for 30 minutes or an hour, but try a 4 hour train ride or a 12 hour flight—the ear canal simply does not respond well in the long term to an expanding material exerting pressure to create a seal, it doesn't matter if it's a stock silicone tip or a foam Comply tip
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That's my 2 cents
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I used Ultimate Ears silicone tips. I did this from day dot, for I absolutely loved the tips when I previously owned the UE Triple fi 5, and had read several people say on Head.fi that they also used their leftover UE tips ....Good thing I like to horde such items.
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Still have the same problem, even i have removed all the filters and play the music in order to compare the sound coming from the ears.
i realized that the problem is still there even filters et other accessories connected.
the right earphone is defective i think
sam
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Damn. So sorry I did not pick up on this earlier.
One thing I know about you is that you own and like Atrios, so that makes it easy.
Close your eyes. Imagine the bass of the Artios but better - more accurate and detailed, but every bit as deep and wide. As hard hitting and rumbling. Now add mids and highs - like Future Sonic has never known and Westone aspires, to and you have the SE846's.
I have spent a considerable amount of time between the 846s and MG7s and it is always a struggle for me - to decided which bass I prefer. In the end, and I hate to say this because I so love my Atrio MG7's, the 846s win out. The difference is the definition, the clarity and the detail. The MG7s are, of course, dynamic drivers so you get that fuller sound, but what I have come to realize is that the 846s make the same massive quantity of bass sound more 'musical', whereas, the MG7s, when compared to the 846s, sound more like an effect. The 846s simply make it all sound more like instruments making music. No matter how loud, how EQ'd, how bass boosted I have them, or how high I have the volume turned, the Shures absorb it all and ask for more. I cannot exceed their capabilites to produce the most amazing bass. Not true with the Atios. While the MG7s can take ANYTHING you throw at them, I have ran into a few (rare as it may be) instances...a few songs where the Atrios bass simply did not sound good at such extremes without adjusting the EQ.
The fact is, I dearly love them both. The bass between them, while different, compliment one another - like a very insightful second opinion. Its interesting to listen to the different harmonic interpretations of such bass laden songs as justify my love and angel.
Unfortunately for the Atrios, the 846s come with amazing mids and highs (yeah, thats right - I DON'T USE FILTERS AND I AINT CHANGING FOR NO ONE) as well, and thats the game changer for me.....Sad to say. I will never part with the MG7s because I have too much love, admiration and respect for ANYTHING that can produce that kind of bass, but I have pretty much retired them. Simply put, there's a new sheriff in town. Still, in my opinion, humble or otherwise, I own the top two bass cannons known to the IEM world. Maybe known to ANY world...who knows.
Don't know if you remember this but it was you who helped me make that decision to buy the Atrios some months ago - something I am eternally grateful for. Thanks again for all your input and help.
Now...go buy you some 846s.
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Damn. So sorry I did not pick up on this earlier.
One thing I know about you is that you own and like Atrios, so that makes it easy.
Close your eyes. Imagine the bass of the Artios but better - more accurate and detailed, but every bit as deep and wide. As hard hitting and rumbling. Now add mids and highs - like Future Sonic has never known and Westone aspires, to and you have the SE846's.
I have spent a considerable amount of time between the 846s and MG7s and it is always a struggle for me - to decided which bass I prefer. In the end, and I hate to say this because I so love my Atrio MG7's, the 846s win out. The difference is the definition, the clarity and the detail. The MG7s are, of course, dynamic drivers so you get that fuller sound, but what I have come to realize is that the 846s make the same massive quantity of bass sound more 'musical', whereas, the MG7s, when compared to the 846s, sound more like an effect. The 846s simply make it all sound more like instruments making music. No matter how loud, how EQ'd, how bass boosted I have them, or how high I have the volume turned, the Shures absorb it all and ask for more. I cannot exceed their capabilites to produce the most amazing bass. Not true with the Atios. While the MG7s can take ANYTHING you throw at them, I have ran into a few (rare as it may be) instances...a few songs where the Atrios bass simply did not sound good at such extremes without adjusting the EQ.
The fact is, I dearly love them both. The bass between them, while different, compliment one another - like a very insightful second opinion. Its interesting to listen to the different harmonic interpretations of such bass laden songs as justify my love and angel.
Unfortunately for the Atrios, the 846s come with amazing mids and highs (yeah, thats right - I DON'T USE FILTERS AND I AINT CHANGING FOR NO ONE) as well, and thats the game changer for me.....Sad to say. I will never part with the MG7s because I have too much love, admiration and respect for ANYTHING that can produce that kind of bass, but I have pretty much retired them. Simply put, there's a new sheriff in town. Still, in my opinion, humble or otherwise, I own the top two bass cannons known to the IEM world. Maybe known to ANY world...who knows.
Don't know if you remember this but it was you who helped me make that decision to buy the Atrios some months ago - something I am eternally grateful for. Thanks again for all your input and help.
Now...go buy you some 846s.
846 - BA Driver which has always had the challenge of creating bass but now Shure created a chamber of some sorts to make bass happen and the MG7 which cost less then $200 with a dynamic driver which has always been around to create bass. The 846 bass in my opinion sounds so close to being a dynamic driver. BTW Atrios is Future Sonics the only difference is Future Sonics uses a 13mm Dynamic Driver and it is custom.
If you feel that just contact Shure and it will be replaced.