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That non-conductive narrow bump-out is because the older plug was too wide for the jack to connect through the hole in a lot of phone cases. Good redesign by Shure, but it had absolutely nothing to do with the audio
Opinions vary widely and strongly on this subject, but briefly, the counter-argument is that expectation bias (which is an absolutely normal and universal human phenomenon) means under certain circumstances people can subjectively hear differences that may not actually be there. In other words, you can be "inventing things" as it were while still being completely normal.
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Interesting thing is that I never ever said or even extremely remotely suggested that physical differences which can be appreciated if one compares old Shure SE cables and new had to do something with SQ. By "close inspection reveals.." I meant physical differences that can be observed. And about "
That non-conductive narrow bump-out is because the older plug was too wide for the jack to connect through the hole in a lot of phone cases. Good redesign by Shure, but it had absolutely nothing to do with the audio" and "
The boss on the shaft of the newer plug is to allow reach into phone sockets buried in an outer case." - guys really? Every person appreciate the new design and there is no doubt whatsoever that the "non-conductive narrow bump-out" or "boss on the shaft" is for convenience and I appreciated that the very first day I got the SE846 (se535 cable plug was a pain with Fiio X5 outer case) - I seriously doubt that a person can even consider that that bump-out has something to do with SQ.
One thing is what we read, another thing is our interpretation. TBH this is the first time on the Head-Fi forums when I can say that it was not a good experience. I wanted to share my opinion and observations and I did, and it was just for the sake of sharing. And in my book sharing means just that, it is not about to convince anyone, it is not about who is right who is wrong. I said I noticed a difference - but there´s the thing - I am not interested nor even remotely considering in convincing anyone at all. I am not saying "I KNOW there is a difference and my opinion is the absolute truth, so everyone who thinks otherwise is wrong". Please understand that.
I am fully aware of placebo effect and if a person has totally convinced himself of something he can even convince other susceptible people and then believe that something is truth when it is not.
I already have read the "Audiophiles can't tell the difference between Monster Cable and coat hangers" and similar articles and I off course I am considering possibility of "mind trick".
The funny thing is that the most I have paid for a cable for headphones was USD $11 because I did not liked the length of Philips Fidelio X1 cable (also there was an interesting debate about original X1 cable and sound change with other cables Tyll mentions it in his review of X1s). And I am not interested in purchasing a new cable for any of my headphones because I am not convinced enough that they worth it.
In a few words: "I do not believe in cables, I do not defend the idea of expensive cables giving superior SQ (and I probably will never buy an "upgrade" cable). Having that as the premise - I was surprised at myself when I swapped cables of my Shure IEMs and noticed something. And I shared my experience"
And what I got?? - "they are same cables, close inspection reveals nothing", "the boss on the shaft is to allow reach into phone sockets, it had absolutely nothing to do with the audio"..etc.
I mean..What the hell??? Attention got focused on irrelevant things that were not even there (never said that physical differences with old and new cable has something to do wits SQ) - so perhaps someone misunderstood what I said.