[Spa03]

But that bone conductor...

Seriously, would that not compensate enough for no DD or BA?

From limited research I found, BC is just the icing on the cake not the main dish? At least not able to replace the sweet beautiful mids good BAs can do.

Sadly due to the size limitation (we don’t want an open-can right as we into IEMs) that driver tech all have respective prons / cons. So the clever souls mix nicely different drivers are the winner in the rabbit hole race

I have Tape and loved it, way more than my 846. But EJ07 completely blown it away so much so that it’s just shouty to my ears now (initially didn’t agree with crinacle rating and now I realised why he gave it Shouty comments)

 

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From limited research I found, BC is just the icing on the cake not the main dish? At least not able to replace the sweet beautiful mids good BAs can do.

Sadly due to the size limitation (we don’t want an open-can right as we into IEMs) that driver tech all have respective prons / cons. So the clever souls mix nicely different drivers are the winner in the rabbit hole race

I have Tape and loved it, way more than my 846. But EJ07 completely blown it away so much so that it’s just shouty to my ears now (initially didn’t agree with crinacle rating and now I realised why he gave it Shouty comments)

I suppose I could just EQ down the bass (heretic!! Burn...) of an EJ or Monarch? Can I do that with Tidal HiFi out of my phone? Does any of that even make sense?

 

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From limited research I found, BC is just the icing on the cake not the main dish? At least not able to replace the sweet beautiful mids good BAs can do.

Sadly due to the size limitation (we don’t want an open-can right as we into IEMs) that driver tech all have respective prons / cons. So the clever souls mix nicely different drivers are the winner in the rabbit hole race

I have Tape and loved it, way more than my 846. But EJ07 completely blown it away so much so that it’s just shouty to my ears now (initially didn’t agree with crinacle rating and now I realised why he gave it Shouty comments)

I hear you about Tape and EJ but the low end...I just dunno about that.

 

[Spa03]

I suppose I could just EQ down the bass (heretic!! Burn...) of an EJ or Monarch? Can I do that with Tidal HiFi out of my phone? Does any of that even make sense?

Nah man if you just choose a eartip that is reducing bass then you all set? For example those Xelastic I been told they are big need one size down so gone for SM boom a little small for me and bass is not as heavy...

@redrol said one set of his ej got too much bass whilst another too little, his first set was perfect.

And someone else has to have his EJ adjusted by Shuoer as too little bass? Not sure if there’s a QA issue or just our own preference? I’m more mids/treble guy so bass for me is just right if my both sets of EJs

Edit: of course you can EQ via apps etc. but it’s really up to you, I hate fiddle thru per song hence no eq for me

 

[IEMusic]

I was thinking 2DD + Planar + Quad EST + Bone Conduction driver = TOTL???? lol

I would like to see a DD - Planar - DD setup. Basically, an arrangement like the IER-Z1R, but with a planar instead of a BA for midrange.

 

[feverfive]

I like seeing all these unique driver configs too. I still wonder/worry about cohesiveness due to that variety. IOW, I'm as interested in hearing about cross-over tech as I am driver tech.

 

[IEMusic]

I like seeing all these unique driver configs too. I still wonder/worry about cohesiveness due to that variety. IOW, I'm as interested in hearing about cross-over tech as I am driver tech.

Exactly! That’s why I would think DD bass, Planar mids, DD treble (super tweeter) would be a bit easier to blend well compared to 4 different driver technologies. That being said, the cohesiveness of the MEST is excellent.

 

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Nah man if you just choose a eartip that is reducing bass then you all set? For example those Xelastic I been told they are big need one size down so gone for SM boom a little small for me and bass is not as heavy...

@redrol said one set of his ej got too much bass whilst another too little, his first set was perfect.

And someone else has to have his EJ adjusted by Shuoer as too little bass? Not sure if there’s a QA issue or just our own preference? I’m more mids/treble guy so bass for me is just right if my both sets of EJs

Edit: of course you can EQ via apps etc. but it’s really up to you, I hate fiddle thru per song hence no eq for me

I'm laughing my ass off! I can barely figure out a good fit with tips never mind changing the sound signature. Yikes...

Ruh Roh...now there's QC issues with EJ?

Shhhhh...dont be starting rumours.

 

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Nah man if you just choose a eartip that is reducing bass then you all set? For example those Xelastic I been told they are big need one size down so gone for SM boom a little small for me and bass is not as heavy...

@redrol said one set of his ej got too much bass whilst another too little, his first set was perfect.

And someone else has to have his EJ adjusted by Shuoer as too little bass? Not sure if there’s a QA issue or just our own preference? I’m more mids/treble guy so bass for me is just right if my both sets of EJs

Edit: of course you can EQ via apps etc. but it’s really up to you, I hate fiddle thru per song hence no eq for me

Redrol, I will take your "too little" set!!

 

[Spa03]

I'm laughing my ass off! I can barely figure out a good fit with tips never mind changing the sound signature. Yikes...

Ruh Roh...now there's QC issues with EJ?

Shhhhh...dont be starting rumours.

Hahaha a proper seal is critical - just try go different ones and smaller ones and you will see. It’s not snake oil I promise!

Well early batches of EJs seemed had issues but I don’t think latter ones do, at least shouldn’t be. Both my sets sound exactly the same to each other.

 

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Redrol, I will take your "too little" set!!

Although...cool thing:

BGGAR compared ( I just watched) EJ and Conductor and C is...wait for it...more balanced.

!!

"Balanced" = the iem version of neutrality?

 

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Hahaha a proper seal is critical - just try go different ones and smaller ones and you will see. It’s not snake oil I promise!

Well early batches of EJs seemed had issues but I don’t think latter ones do, at least shouldn’t be. Both my sets sound exactly the same to each other.

I got the fit licked. New Bee rocks!

Good to know about EJ.

 

[Spa03]

Although...cool thing:

BGGAR compared ( I just watched) EJ and Conductor and C is...wait for it...more balanced.

!!

"Balanced" = the iem version of neutrality?

He’s known basshead (nothing wrong with that), so yea Conductor being monitor tuned be more balanced (right too).

I got confused - do you own both or?

 

[redrol]

Redrol, I will take your "too little" set!!

Dude, that is my 'Golden' set. I prefer being able to add in some bass if necessary (Brain is in Party mode ) but keep it clean and pure for most critical listening.

 

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Dude, that is my 'Golden' set. I prefer being able to add in some bass if necessary (Brain is in Party mode ) but keep it clean and pure for most critical listening.

Finally someone who speaks my language!

I thought everyone who listens to iems was a raised by dance club operators.

There is hope for me. According to a BGGAR video, Conductor might be MY Golden set. He said it might be good for...jazz!

Maybe even classical???