They are???? Zero needs alot of burn in definitely as well as the x1. X1 is just more treble boosted versus the zero and the zero is more detailed to my ears without the harshness in the treble which is a little to much for me
Really? I'm not a big believer in burn in either, I've never noticed much of a difference. That was one of their stipulations for review though. Plus from the others in this thread, it makes a significant difference. Guess we will see.
Really? I'm not a big believer in burn in either, I've never noticed much of a difference. That was one of their stipulations for review though. Plus from the others in this thread, it makes a significant difference. Guess we will see.
May also has somewhat to do with the sources being used to drive the IEM. Really have no qualms with this IEM. If it improves more or not I am a happy camper with its sound vs what I paid.
I believe in burn in. However, the Zero are the first iems I own that truly sounded great the moment I plugged them in the mojo!
I usually find peaks in the highs and loose bass until burned in settle things down... so, if Zero get even better with time, it's going to be very very sweet!
I am gonna be honest and say I heard no improvement in sound with burn in. In fact my first pair sounds bassier than when I first got it. So is that reverse burn in?
I am gonna be honest and say I heard no improvement in sound with burn in. In fact my first pair sounds bassier than when I first got it. So is that reverse burn in?
Actually RedJohn different IEMs might also exhibit different characteristics when burning in. For example I can see it very possible for an IEM to become more bassy with burn in or an IEM where the bass may become more controlled with usage. It depends on the IEM, how it was designed etc.
In the instance with the Shozy I have been quite happy with it from day 1. Maybe the signature might have smoothed out a bit, mids would be more apparent on this (lush). Ultimately for me though, if I don't have any issue with the frequency response I'm a happy camper. Halsey's "Haunting" & "Color" are awesome on the Shozy .
Strange, I didn`t like the sound or fit of the Zero`s with spiral dots, mine sounded a bit congested and kept falling out of my ears, stock tips and generic 400 size tips sound fine however.
Also regarding burn-in I actually have two Zero`s, one is as fully-burnt-in as it could possible be, probably has 350 hours on it or more, whilst the second set has about 250 hrs by now. My second Zero is a lot bassier, always has been, and I don`t recall my first set ever being that bass heavy. The rest of the spectrum sounds very similar however. I`m writing up a comparison article on my blog, hopefully they`ll sound similar once my second set reaches about the same time. It would be interesting if anyone else is experiencing similar changes, the bass emphasis is mainly in the sub-bass btw.
Regardless, big fan of the Zero (at least my first set), they have a pleasing tonality and surprising clarity and detail. Also the cherry wood reminds me of the JVC FX range (which I`m also a big fan of), keep up the good work Shozy, Looking forwards to receiving my Cygnus!
*I will note that I have contacted Shozy and they assure me that there is no unit variation, nor have they had any cases reported apart from mine. I`m not really a believer in burn-in but Shozy have stated that these sound changes are achieved through a form of proprietary technology that the rep couldn`t share. Will be interesting to see a teardown if someone ever has cable issues down the road.
Actually "no burn-in" is a myth. Like many things audio, those who've never experienced or otherwise perceived a specific effect (differences between DACs, amps, changes in sound performance following a specific period of continuous use aka burn-in, etc.) will swear by graves that this is a "myth, damn it!". Those who did experience this first hand will know better. Personally I had experienced burn-in by comparing a pair of two-weeks used headphones vs a brand new one, so whenever someone pops out and solemnly proclaims "burn in is a myth" I tend to smile and roll my eyes cause it's nonsense...
Except as with many things in audio, the fact that somebody "experienced something first-hand" is no guarantee that that "something" actually exists...
I have “personally experienced" many mythical audio phenomena--burn-in, drastic differences between source / amp components with no measurable difference, etc. but know better when there are solid non-mythical explanations for each phenomenon (e.g. variation in *your own hearing* on different days, psychological expectations, variations in earphone placement, impedance mismatch...)
It's been pointed out many times that sample variation among the same model of headphones and even differences in how you placed the headphones on the head each time produces far more measurable sonic variation than burn in has been found to produce.
One known phenomenon that does produce a lot of difference in how full-size headphones sound over time is the fact that their earpads deflate and flatten with use, changing the shape and size of the enclosed acoustic chamber.
Now if Shozy had deliberately designed these IEMs to change sound with burn-in, I suppose that's a different matter and I suppose there are ways of making it happen if you insist on it as a design feature...
Actually "no burn-in" is a myth. Like many things audio, those who've never experienced or otherwise perceived a specific effect (differences between DACs, amps, changes in sound performance following a specific period of continuous use aka burn-in, etc.) will swear by graves that this is a "myth, damn it!". Those who did experience this first hand will know better. Personally I had experienced burn-in by comparing a pair of two-weeks used headphones vs a brand new one, so whenever someone pops out and solemnly proclaims "burn in is a myth" I tend to smile and roll my eyes cause it's nonsense...
Except as with many things in audio, the fact that somebody "experienced something first-hand" is no guarantee that that "something" actually exists...
No, of course not, there may be alternative explanations. But how often do you employ this scientific reasoning with regards to non high-end audio gear that we regularly encounter in our daily lives? Have you ever looked into psychological and other effects when driving two models of cars? Say, a Honda compared a Maserati? So is "experiencing something first-hand" between two different cars also no guarantee that "something" actually exists there? Maybe there are carphools out there as well... Or is perhaps this obsession with "scientific proof, damn it!" somehow consigned exclusively to high-end audio, for some reason... I mean, how many digital cameras, phones, TVs, laptops, keyboards, cars, apartments or planes have you DBT'ed in your life before feeling the need to DBT audio gear?
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