lightningfarron
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my jvc tips had just arrived, still didnt fit my ear nicely with ie80 but it fit perfectly after some mod. great tips
hey Matt, I know it might be apples to oranges, but i was wondering if u could elaborate on the difference in bass/subbass between ie80 and he-400. I mean texture, tightness, visceral impact, layering etc.?
UGGGHH Im in such a bind... I listen to almost every genre of music maybe with the exception of hard rock/grunge/screamo.These IEMS are GREAT for everything EXCEP any type of rock music. I listen to rock music about 40% of the time so its a big deal. Theres something about rock songs where everything just sounds congested and muddy and I don't know why. I am coming from the W4, and I found those to be awesome but lacking in bass quality and quantity.
Bass in quantity is already obtuse, try the tape mod and upgrade your source music. Try also a silver cable. btw which fullsize would you consider great for rock?
You i think the tape mod would solve some issues, try that first before getting cables, so far am also using the galaxy, which i like what Matt says, it's springy. I use the slider to keep them in place, so not a problem for me. It depends really where those music was from before conversion to mp3 or Flac.
UGGGHH Im in such a bind... I listen to almost every genre of music maybe with the exception of hard rock/grunge/screamo.These IEMS are GREAT for everything EXCEP any type of rock music. I listen to rock music about 40% of the time so its a big deal. Theres something about rock songs where everything just sounds congested and muddy and I don't know why. I am coming from the W4, and I found those to be awesome but lacking in bass quality and quantity.
What do you mean by where the music was before conversion. Wouldn't all conversions to 320 MP3's have to have been from a higher bit rate sample? I.E from a 450 -> 320, or lossless to lossless.
Well, i think this depends a lot on which rock music you're listening to. Almost all modern rock suffers from pretty bad compression and dynamic range limitations. Almost all rock suffers from pretty bad distortion as a result of brickwalling. This definitely results in the 'congested' feel to rock songs. I dont actually think the IE80s are to blame here.
I read a lot about this which got me asking... are there any well recorded and mastered rock songs from the last decade? Well i went and found myself a copy of Tool's Lateralus album which has a reputation of being one of the best recorded rock albums of recent times. And let me tell you, it sounds excellent on the IE80s. Every instrument is distinct and i totally don't get the congested feel. Take a look at this image, a song from Tool's album is on top, and one from Limp Bizkit's album Results May Vary (random rock song) on the bottom. Both flac files.
Limp Bizkit's song is so badly compressed that it's off the charts literally. There's so much clipping and dynamic range lost. Just by looking at that picture you can tell there's no instrument separation, just a wall of noise. And you can certainly hear it. Tool's song on the other hand never reaches the limit. If you look at the waveform there are actually spikes which indicate that there's no clipping, so drums have their full impact.
Anyway what im trying to say is, most of your rock music is probably really badly compressed which may account for why you think it sounds bad on the IE80s. They are slightly revealing IEMs
Thank you for this. I guess this is why some of the live recordings sound better and uncongested than the studio recordings.
I guess the congestion was less with the W4 because there was less bass?