They have the almost the same quantity but the HD660S bass is better behaved.
More clear , body , detail and above all more dynamic.
More clear , body , detail and above all more dynamic.
I've only owned the 660s for a short while. What I can say in comparison to to the 58X is that the 58X grain is gone. Less bass, but faster and more articulate on the 660s. 660s has slightly better imaging / separation - not world's apart to my ears. That somewhat annoying mid bass forwardness is gone on the 660s. The somewhat peaky / shouty high mids is also absent with the 660s. I don't feel like the 660s has the same sort of power and energy as the 58X. It's smoother, more accurate and refined. The 660s is a better rounded can. Unless you listen to primarily hard rock like I often do, the 660s is the better headphone. I miss my 58X, so I'm picking another one up. The two make a nice pair to have. Never been a big fan of the 650. Different strokes...
There's a reason vshaped sound is popular, it can be very engaging and fun when you're in the mood. That's why I pick up my cheap Senn iems that have more sub bass and more sparkly treble, great for rockin out and add excitwment to compressed music like it's artificially enhancing the dynamic range, obviously no where near as natural, detailed and refined as the 660S.
I wouldn't call the 58X V shaped myself. I never used them with compressed files. Definitely not as natural and refined as the 660s. I think they make great sidekicks.There's a reason vshaped sound is popular, it can be very engaging and fun when you're in the mood. That's why I pick up my cheap Senn iems that have more sub bass and more sparkly treble, great for rockin out and add excitwment to compressed music like it's artificially enhancing the dynamic range, obviously no where near as natural, detailed and refined as the 660S.
Is it justified to have them both then? Especially, if you listen also a lot of house music? I would be grateful for your opinion.I wouldn't call the 58X V shaped myself. I never used them with compressed files. Definitely not as natural and refined as the 660s. I think they make great sidekicks.
When I bought the 58X I was really confused. I thought the driver was at least the same size i.e 38. Now I realize that the 6XX drivers quoted as 38/40 and the 58X as 36/38 so the 58X is one category below in size while someone could think they are both 38 so the same size. For me it sounds one category below in comparison with the 6XX. If I knew that I would buy the 660s instead directly./QUOTE]
For my tastes if i was to have two i would prefer an HD58x and an HD660S.
HD650 for me is obsolete if someone needs two headphones from the series.
If he can afford one then according to taste HD650 is great
Focal and Sennheiser are my fav... I had a Final audio sonorous 2 and it was way out of my taste bright with no resolution very heavy to , i couldnt sell it so i trade it.Well i will be honest with you.
The Clears are a great level up regarding bass and above all dynamics , realism and detail retrieval
without (for my ears) sacrificing musicality (but i listen only to classical).
Tonality is more or less the same and one of the best in the market so i consider both equal at this point.
HD660S still remains one of my favourites of all time and my recommendation for it's price.
If cash is a problem then it is no brainer , it touches the TOTL'S with a fraction of the price.
But if money are no object then the Clear's are a better headphone especially for classical music.
At this time being and from what i have auditioned till now my top three headphones are
1. Final D8000 (-pro)
2. Focal Clear
3. Sennheiser HD660S
and
4. Hifiman Ananda
Never heard the Elex but from info that i have gathered it is not at Clear level.