I REALLY like these, but they seem to be missing a lot of detail my cheaper cans produce. IEMs included, I know they are hard to drive an need proper amplification but I'm starting to worry that that "veil" you hear of is what I'm hearing. I've had them running for around 20-25 hours so far.
I'm using a e10k on high gain and I'm getting very decent volume from them. I know this is a budget amp but I'm worried if I spend a lot of money on a better DAC I'm going to be let down.
Maybe I'm after something not so easy listening and energetic?! i think I'm gonna give up on over heads and stick to my IEMs lol.
I can understand your sentiments. Regarding the detail, there are areas of the HD650 that aren't as detailed as say my MDR-7550 IEMs , but overall the presentation is more realistic. I also feel that the detail is there, especially when I'm listening to field recordings. Its a bit blurred, and doesn't quite have the precision of my LCD2.
Also, on the bass end, the HD650 are great, but all of my other headphones outperform them in this area in one way or altogether. For instance the LCD2 is just flat our superior on the low-end. I get spine chills listening to certain bass music because it just hits a nerve. My 7550s have the most bass presence of all of the headphones, and also hit the sub-bass lower with great clarity. The 7520, has a dynamic driver that I feel rivals the 650, and its bass hits harder with more sub-bass and authority.
All that said, the bass is completely enjoyable on the 650, and my ears acclimate. I sometimes use a bit of EQ to make the signature more neutral and more realistic (which is actually to raise the sub-bass and some of the top end). On many occasions, I'm able to crank the 650 and always enjoy whatever I'm listening to. And of course, never fatiguing.
They have been getting the most head-time recently. They are just so easy to put on, listen to music, enjoy, and repeat.
Anyhow, there is reason they are so highly regarded. Its the complete picture they put together. Cohesive, romantic, dynamic, just plain awesome.