Sennheiser HD650 & Massdrop HD6XX Impressions Thread
Jan 13, 2016 at 10:24 AM Post #31,967 of 46,499
  So can we draw a conclusion then that the HD 650 is for older people with older ears? :p

 
No. As we age our hearing deteriorates, particularly at the top end. The HD 650's alleged rolled off treble would therefore not seem to be ideal. However, I am 50 (with slight hearing loss at the top end) and for me the HD 650 ticks every box.
 
Go figure.
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 11:50 AM Post #31,968 of 46,499
 
  So can we draw a conclusion then that the HD 650 is for older people with older ears? :p

 
No. As we age our hearing deteriorates, particularly at the top end. The HD 650's alleged rolled off treble would therefore not seem to be ideal. However, I am 50 (with slight hearing loss at the top end) and for me the HD 650 ticks every box.
 
Go figure.


one of the conclusions of the harman work looking for preferred signature on headphone, would tend to debunk that general idea of kids loving moaaar bass and seniors looking for more trebles to compensate hearing loss. they didn't find any obvious differences by age in the preferred signature.
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 12:26 PM Post #31,969 of 46,499
 
one of the conclusions of the harman work looking for preferred signature on headphone, would tend to debunk that general idea of kids loving moaaar bass and seniors looking for more trebles to compensate hearing loss. they didn't find any obvious differences by age in the preferred signature.

 
In that case I think they're wrong. All my similarly aged friends in RL have slightly reduced accuity in the top ranges. It logically follows that a headphone with more treble might be preferable. I hasten to add that this has not been my personal experience. Perhaps I'm mentally over-sensitive to treble in the first place.
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 12:26 PM Post #31,970 of 46,499

I think as we gradually lose high frequency hearing with age, our brains compensate so it really goes unnoticed.  A sudden hearing loss due to injury, etc. would be very noticeable because there is no time for adjustment.
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 12:38 PM Post #31,971 of 46,499
 
I think as we gradually lose high frequency hearing with age, our brains compensate so it really goes unnoticed.  A sudden hearing loss due to injury, etc. would be very noticeable because there is no time for adjustment.

 
Aye, this makes sense.
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 12:44 PM Post #31,972 of 46,499

Keep in mind, most of the big name audio reviewers with Stereophile and The Absolute Sound are in their 60's.
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 1:03 PM Post #31,973 of 46,499
 
For me: Roy Orbison.  What a voice and great ballades.

I'll  agree with that. Do you have  a copy of his  A Black and White Night?  Great duet performances along with stellar recorded sound quality. A R2D4
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 1:10 PM Post #31,974 of 46,499
 
Keep in mind, most of the big name audio reviewers with Stereophile and The Absolute Sound are in their 60's.

They don't need to hear, they have advertisement revenue to determine review outcomes.  LOL
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 1:15 PM Post #31,975 of 46,499
   
In that case I think they're wrong. All my similarly aged friends in RL have slightly reduced accuity in the top ranges. It logically follows that a headphone with more treble might be preferable. I hasten to add that this has not been my personal experience. Perhaps I'm mentally over-sensitive to treble in the first place.


I have the same, the older I get, the more over sensitive I get for treble.. may have to do with my (mild) tinnitus, I'm not sure
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 1:18 PM Post #31,976 of 46,499
So can we draw a conclusion then that the HD 650 is for older people with older ears? :p


They are more likely to listen to old music which are generally recorded quite poorly. This is what the HD 650 is good at. It's a very forgiving headphone.
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 2:11 PM Post #31,977 of 46,499
They are more likely to listen to old music which are generally recorded quite poorly. This is what the HD 650 is good at. It's a very forgiving headphone.

Only if it's really old. Late 60's up into the 80's was fine. Modern recordings for the most part are mastered way too hot and compressed.
Add to it Apple wants the music industry to master everything to sound good on a pair of Apple earbuds, sound quality is in for a hit.
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 2:14 PM Post #31,978 of 46,499
  Only if it's really old. Late 60's up into the 80's was fine. Modern recordings for the most part are mastered way too hot and compressed.
Add to it Apple wants the music industry to master everything to sound good on a pair of Apple earbuds, sound quality is in for a hit.


Well, they own Beats now, so...maybe they want it mastered for those or *cringe* with those.
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 2:18 PM Post #31,979 of 46,499
I've got records from the 70's that sound better than most if not all of the the newer well produced stuff I have. An example would be an early pressing of Steely Dan Aja. Listen to the title track with your 650's and get your mind blown
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 2:20 PM Post #31,980 of 46,499
I've got records from the 70's that sound better than most if not all of the the newer well produced stuff I have. An example would be an early pressing of Steely Dan Aja. Listen to the title track with your 650's and get your mind blown


Dude, if I start listening to Steely Dan, I might as well put in the order for viagra on the online pharmacy right now.
 

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