[SolomonPierce]

These better be made in Deutschland!  I hate seeing all these German brands outsourcing recently (AKG in there too Austria not excluded!).  I know the 800s are but other than that they're all made elsewhere now, 598 and down are China, 600/650 are Ireland.  I have the 598s and they're still of good quality, but I'd much rather know that quality electronics are made in house by their respective companies. 

 

[BlackbeardBen]

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These better be made in Deutschland!  I hate seeing all these German brands outsourcing recently (AKG in there too Austria not excluded!).  I know the 800s are but other than that they're all made elsewhere now, 598 and down are China, 600/650 are Ireland.  I have the 598s and they're still of good quality, but I'd much rather know that quality electronics are made in house by their respective companies. 

What's wrong with Ireland?

FWIW I believe someone has chimed in saying that these are also made there.  I do not know the accuracy of that statement however.

 

[nikp]

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What's wrong with Ireland?

FWIW I believe someone has chimed in saying that these are also made there.  I do not know the accuracy of that statement however.

The HD700 is designed in Germany and assembled in Ireland. 
 
(http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headphones_hifi_audiophile-headphones_504963)
 

 

[ac500]

Which says nothing of where the actual parts are made. "Assembled" just means the parts are put together, "designed" just means where the engineers live.

 

[nikp]

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Which says nothing of where the actual parts are made. "Assembled" just means the parts are put together, "designed" just means where the engineers live.

 
So we should be looking for a made in? 

 
 

 

[purrin]

Not necessarily. Place of design in important. Kind of like "Designed in Cupertino California but Made in China"

 

[ac500]

Well honestly I think where something is made matters less than people think. It can mean something, but quality control and component quality and design is overall far more important than what country does anything. Basically... the end result is all that matters.
 

 

[nikp]

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Not necessarily. Place of design is important. Kind of like "Designed in Cupertino California but Made in China"

 
Just curious, but isn't made in the same thing as assembled in?
 
 

 

[IndieScent]

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Just curious, but isn't made in the same thing as assembled in?
 
 

"made in" usually refer to the parts and assemble are in the same country.
"assembled in" refer to the parts made on a or various different country then assembled in that country

 

[purrin]

Well technically, the components could have been made in 34 different countries and then shipped to a final spot for final assembly (and usually packaging).

 

[BlackbeardBen]

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Just curious, but isn't made in the same thing as assembled in?
 
 

Legally, yes.
 
And yes, quality control is all the difference.  Contrast QC of Grados versus HD 598s.

 

[nikp]

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"made in" usually refer to the parts and assemble are in the same country.
"assembled in" refer to the parts made on a or various different country then assembled in that country

 
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Well technically, the components could have been made in 34 different countries and then shipped to a final spot for final assembly (and usually packaging).

 
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Legally, yes.
 
And yes, quality control is all the difference.  Contrast QC of Grados versus HD 598s.

 
Cheers!
 
 

 

[Audio-Omega]

Some headphones are more accommodating than others.  With plenty of sources and amplifiers to choose from, I would say synergy rather than design flaw is the issue.  

 

[John Willett]

Nice - I was waiting for these to come.
 
I have spoken to Sennheiser UK who are hoping they will sell for £599 in the UK (almost half the 800 and fill the gap between the 650 and 800).
 
I understand that the 700 has a slightly smaller ring driver than the 800.
 
Maybe I will get a listen at the Bristol Hi-Fi show next month.
 
Now - all I am waiting for is for Sennheiser to bring out some closed cans at a similar price using the same driver...................  pretty please ..............

 

[John Willett]

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These better be made in Deutschland!  I hate seeing all these German brands outsourcing recently (AKG in there too Austria not excluded!).  I know the 800s are but other than that they're all made elsewhere now, 598 and down are China, 600/650 are Ireland.  I have the 598s and they're still of good quality, but I'd much rather know that quality electronics are made in house by their respective companies. 

The 800 and, I am sure, the 700 are made in Germany.
 
My HD 25-1 were made in Germany, though current ones are made in Ireland.
 
Most other headphones are made at Sennheiser's custom-built factory in Ireland - the factory is totally Sennheiser and is in Ireland because the Irish government gave them lots of tax incentives to build it there in a place of high unemployment.
 
As far as I know it's only the in-ear stuff that is made in Sennheiser's Chinese factory.
 
Sennheiser do also have a factory and research facility in the USA.