Sennheiser HD 600 Impressions Thread
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They only had SS amp in the shop and HD600 was too much for me, the bass as well was better on 650.
Mid and upper bass bump. Over time thick and syrupy, even pulls low male voices into the cavern.
I actually find my HD650 nicely driven directly from my macbook, OTL amp gives it a bit of extra bass/gets rid of a grainy texture in mids/highs, but nothing in regards of drastic changes.
What amp? BHOC w/ speedball kills my Rag 1 on the 600.

hak said: The big advantage of sennheisers is that I can listen to poor recordings and Sennheiser can beat more expensive offerings(as an example campfire cascade for me), but people claiming that these series sits in tier 1 simply haven't heard a good flagship which suits their tastes.

The 600/650 is the first stop for many. They are well better than many that cost more. They are not modern flagships - agree.
 
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Try them with a vintage stereo amplifier or receiver, preferably a top brand name like Sansui, Pioneer, Kenwood, Marantz, etc. Must be an amp that came out between late 60s - 79, 40wpc & above. You can use the headphone output because it‘s connected to the speaker amp and has resistors inside as opposed to modern stereo amps who‘s headphone output is connected to an op-amp. With a vintage amp you’re getting the whole amp just like the speakers are and I guarantee you that your HD650 headphone will sound like the flagship model which it once was. I listen to my HD650 w/ my vintage Kenwood KA-8006 int. amp., 70wpc [1974] & they sound magnificent. Just my recommendation/ opinion.

Oooo, I would love to try them with a vintage amp or receiver..,
 
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Mid and upper bass bump. Over time thick and syrupy, even pulls low male voices into the cavern.

What amp? BHOC w/ speedball kills my Rag 1 on the 600.

hak said: The big advantage of sennheisers is that I can listen to poor recordings and Sennheiser can beat more expensive offerings(as an example campfire cascade for me), but people claiming that these series sits in tier 1 simply haven't heard a good flagship which suits their tastes.

The 600/650 is the first stop for many. They are well better than many that cost more. They are not modern flagships - agree.

Amplifier is feliks echo 2, I know it doesn't get the best of hd650, but still I don't see them matching todays top tier performers. If I haven't owned and heard few of them I could debate that hd650 could stand with best. From the price point HD650/600 is insane value and I don't think there are many other hp with such price/performance ratio. today market is filled with mediocre and overpriced stuff covered by glossy reviews across websites and forums, but you can get good SQ for cheap which was not possible before.

Some of the flaghsips though are in the league of their own, but they usually are crazy expensive
 
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Finally showed up and I have been listening to the new Romanian HD600... It honestly sounds exactly as others have described it and how I assumed it would sound. I like it, different enough from the HD650 to keep, but I can definately see why many would say it is pointless to own both - as they are that similar... The HD600 sounds very "complete" in its sound signature, just in a slightly different way than the HD650.

Also, I heard a minor detail I have never heard before when listening to a few test songs... I can see why people would prefer to mix and master with these headphones - flat and non-fatiguing. It is a really sweet sound.
 
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Finally showed up and I have been listening to the new Romanian HD600... It honestly sounds exactly as others have described it and how I assumed it would sound. I like it, different enough from the HD650 to keep, but I can definately see why many would say it is pointless to own both - as they are that similar... The HD600 sounds very "complete" in its sound signature, just in a slightly different way than the HD650.

Also, I heard a minor detail I have never heard before when listening to a few test songs... I can see why people would prefer to mix and master with these headphones - flat and non-fatiguing. It is a really sweet sound.
Is your 650 the irish one?
 
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Is your 650 the irish one?
Yes indeed, so are the HD58x... No complaints with the new plastic / build of the Romanian version either - it feels very solid to me. I am quite pleased with these headphones.
 
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Amplifier is feliks echo 2, I know it doesn't get the best of hd650, but still I don't see them matching todays top tier performers. If I haven't owned and heard few of them I could debate that hd650 could stand with best. From the price point HD650/600 is insane value and I don't think there are many other hp with such price/performance ratio. today market is filled with mediocre and overpriced stuff covered by glossy reviews across websites and forums, but you can get good SQ for cheap which was not possible before.

Some of the flaghsips though are in the league of their own, but they usually are crazy expensive
When the word flagship comes up, then price is out the window. OTOH, that's artificial, because everybody but a billionaire uses cost in the formulae to decide.

HD-600's on an amp that is made for it (OTL) is probably the cheapest way I know how to get into a sound that is not perfect, but perhaps be dubbed "psuedo SOTA" if you can shutoff your judgements about tubes and a ~$300 can, then the enjoyment of this combo takes you a long way.

OTOH, that combo is no match for the Susvara and matching top pieces. But at what? 10X the price. An E2 on a Mjolnir 2? 4X more and better. A HE-600 se v2 w/ on steep discount w/ a Lyr3 and a multibit DAC included might be better.

But not much else in that price range, no to Ananda, LCD-2, etc....
 
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Try them with a vintage stereo amplifier or receiver, preferably a top brand name like Sansui, Pioneer, Kenwood, Marantz, etc. Must be an amp that came out between late 60s - 79, 40wpc & above. You can use the headphone output because it‘s connected to the speaker amp and has resistors inside as opposed to modern stereo amps who‘s headphone output is connected to an op-amp. With a vintage amp you’re getting the whole amp just like the speakers are and I guarantee you that your HD650 headphone will sound like the flagship model which it once was. I listen to my HD650 w/ my vintage Kenwood KA-8006 int. amp., 70wpc [1974] & they sound magnificent. Just my recommendation/ opinion.

Agreed. I often run the 600 family of cans on either a Sansui AU-719 integrated or Marantz 2250B and they sound excellent on them. In fact the HD6XXs sound better on these than any other amp(s) including OTL tube amps in my experience. I gave my lady a Sansui G5000 receiver and the higher impedance Sennheisers sound fantastic on that as well.

Interestingly enough I find the vintage integrated amps/receivers pair better with medium to higher impedance phones (50 ohms and above) than they do lower impedance planars. They will power lower impedance planars well don't get me wrong, but they seem to have much better drive and synergy with higher impedance phones like the 600 family of cans. Listening tells me the headphone stages on the vintage integrateds and receivers where engineered to run with higher impedance phones.
 
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When the word flagship comes up, then price is out the window. OTOH, that's artificial, because everybody but a billionaire uses cost in the formulae to decide.

HD-600's on an amp that is made for it (OTL) is probably the cheapest way I know how to get into a sound that is not perfect, but perhaps be dubbed "psuedo SOTA" if you can shutoff your judgements about tubes and a ~$300 can, then the enjoyment of this combo takes you a long way.

OTOH, that combo is no match for the Susvara and matching top pieces. But at what? 10X the price. An E2 on a Mjolnir 2? 4X more and better. A HE-600 se v2 w/ on steep discount w/ a Lyr3 and a multibit DAC included might be better.

But not much else in that price range, no to Ananda, LCD-2, etc....

Ananda was a disappointment for me. Yes better bass/soundstage than HD650, but tonality somehow sounded wonky for me. While I love planars for their liquid sound presentation, Ananda managed to fail there. With LCD's I think it's hit or miss case, depending if their tonality will suit you, but if you are not looking for better bass I doubt that LCD2 would be a worth sidegrade from HD650. As an all-rounder there is one planar that I get itchy for, but the price tag puts my willy to sleep
 
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Ananda was a disappointment for me. Yes better bass/soundstage than HD650, but tonality somehow sounded wonky for me. While I love planars for their liquid sound presentation, Ananda managed to fail there. With LCD's I think it's hit or miss case, depending if their tonality will suit you, but if you are not looking for better bass I doubt that LCD2 would be a worth sidegrade from HD650. As an all-rounder there is one planar that I get itchy for, but the price tag puts my willy to sleep
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HD-600's on an amp that is made for it (OTL) is probably the cheapest way I know how to get into a sound that is not perfect, but perhaps be dubbed "psuedo SOTA" if you can shutoff your judgements about tubes and a ~$300 can, then the enjoyment of this combo takes you a long way.

OTOH, that combo is no match for the Susvara and matching top pieces. But at what? 10X the price. An E2 on a Mjolnir 2?...
Agreed! I really enjoy my HD-600s (Custom Can mod) driven by Woo Audio WA3. What’s great about the 600s is their upscalability. I can use TS 5998 and Amperex PQ 7308s in the WA3 and the improvement comes through the HD-600s “loud n’ clear”.

The HD-600s really shine with the Schiit Mjolnir II (@ksorota capacitor mods). Here again, tube differences definitely come through! (Choice with the MJ-II: GEC A2900).

Yes, the HD-600s can “take you a long way” to - if not ‘perfect’ sound - immense musical enjoyment and keep on reaching higher!...
 
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Ananda was a disappointment for me. Yes better bass/soundstage than HD650, but tonality somehow sounded wonky for me. While I love planars for their liquid sound presentation, Ananda managed to fail there. With LCD's I think it's hit or miss case, depending if their tonality will suit you, but if you are not looking for better bass I doubt that LCD2 would be a worth sidegrade from HD650. As an all-rounder there is one planar that I get itchy for, but the price tag puts my willy to sleep
Love the LCD-4, but the 3 and the 3 versions of the lCD-2 I know? No.
 
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Do they sell replacement headbands for the new HD600? Older version would be cool too but I read they are no longer to be found anywhere.

This place in the UK sells replacements. I'm not sure if the product photograph is up to date, so I'd ask what it is you'd get.

https://www.audiosanctuary.co.uk/sennheiser-replacement-complete-headband-for-hd600.html

Sennheiser gave me a part number for HD600 headband, but they didnt specify if its old marble version (doubtful).

586411, $50

Visited the store today and can confirm this is the old marble finish. They told me they purchased the last batch from Sennheiser (of the old marble finish) - and i believe them

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