SennGrado Thread

[7keys]

Still going strong and sounding so so good after a year  

Great!

I use mine almost every day.

 

[matchbox]

Here is an aluminum build: 

 

inspired by these: 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/119314/post-your-grado-mods/1485#post_7262162
 
 The cups were built for the old ypsilons, but the senn drivers sound better in aluminum, delivering more bass/sub bass. Very detailed across the board. As you can see, they are in a temporary stage(please excuse the electrical tape), but I had the camera out...

 

[7keys]

  Here is an aluminum build: 

 

inspired by these: 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/119314/post-your-grado-mods/1485#post_7262162
 
 The cups were built for the old ypsilons, but the senn drivers sound better in aluminum, delivering more bass/sub bass. Very detailed across the board. As you can see, they are in a temporary stage(please excuse the electrical tape), but I had the camera out...

Very Nice.

 

[matchbox]

  Very Nice.

Thanks 7keys.

 

[Harry Manback]

I think the credit is parceled out like this.

Cup maker                        25%
Cable maker                     15%
Drivers                              40%
Headband/earpads           15%
Headphone builder            5%

Cup maker is just implementing a design. I agree that it is the skilled labor portion of the build, but a cup shape and material selection has more influence on the sound than who did the actual fabrication.

Driver design is even more mportant. They define the possible wave shape, frequency and amplitude.

Cables are just wire, unless you buy into the audiophile B.S. Cables are about connectivity and convenience. It has been shown that lamp cord or coat hanger (for speakers) are indistinguishable from ultra pure unobtanium at the run lengths used in speakers and headphones.

Earpads should be bumped up your list. Driver to ear distance and sound absorption have a direct effect on sound. It is similiar to speaker placement and acoustic room treatment for speakers.

I don't mean to downplay the skill of cupmakers. You guys are doing amazing things, but you are implementing design, even if you did the design. I know I can't do the artistic things that you guys do. In this context, it is certainly the most time and skill intensive part of custom headphones, even if its impact on sound isn't the largest.

 

[7keys]

 

I think the credit is parceled out like this.

Cup maker                        25%
Cable maker                     15%
Drivers                              40%
Headband/earpads           15%
Headphone builder            5%

Cup maker is just implementing a design. I agree that it is the skilled labor portion of the build, but a cup shape and material selection has more influence on the sound than who did the actual fabrication.

Driver design is even more mportant. They define the possible wave shape, frequency and amplitude.

Cables are just wire, unless you buy into the audiophile B.S. Cables are about connectivity and convenience. It has been shown that lamp cord or coat hanger (for speakers) are indistinguishable from ultra pure unobtanium at the run lengths used in speakers and headphones.

Earpads should be bumped up your list. Driver to ear distance and sound absorption have a direct effect on sound. It is similiar to speaker placement and acoustic room treatment for speakers.

I don't mean to downplay the skill of cupmakers. You guys are doing amazing things, but you are implementing design, even if you did the design. I know I can't do the artistic things that you guys do. In this context, it is certainly the most time and skill intensive part of custom headphones, even if its impact on sound isn't the largest.

I was joking with fleasbaby when I wrote that, he said the builder should get most of the credit. 

 

[fleasbaby]

  I was joking with fleasbaby when I wrote that, he said the builder should get most of the credit. 

 
LOL...I forgot all about that...here's my edited version
 
Cup maker                        25%
Cable maker                     15%
Drivers                              40%
Headband/earpads           15%
Headphone builder            5%

 

[7keys]

Such a humble cup maker from the old country.

 

[fleasbaby]

Such a humble cup maker from the old country.

LOL...yes indeed. All this talk makes me remember the Great Grado Tonewood Experiment....

 

[7keys]

Such a humble cup maker from the old country.

LOL...yes indeed. All this talk makes me remember the Great Grado Tonewood Experiment....

I always wanted to do another Tone-wood experiment but with exotic tone-wood.
I had a lot of fun with the first one.

 

[ourfpshero]

mine so far...
gonna work on sealing drivers at opening and a new headband

 

[7keys]

mine so far...
gonna work on sealing drivers at opening and a new headband

Very nice.
Is that walnut?
How's the SQ?

 

[Demoninja]

Just curious, I posted with interest about making my own pair of senngrados quite a while ago. I'm finally making the move, purchased everything except the woodies. Could anyone point me in the direction? The only place I could find with stock is Yew Woodworks on Etsy. I'd like to look around at other options before I commit to cups. I'm located in the San Francisco Bay Area if that matters. Thanks all!

 

[ourfpshero]

Very nice.
Is that walnut?
How's the SQ?

Zebra wood, got these from another headfi peep, recabled them, sound is bright mids and highs, good bass thump and reverb with the wood cups. Gonna play with different pads next

 

[Demoninja]

Anyone try the original PX100 drivers? I see a pair on sale for pretty cheap locally so wondering if I should scoop them for a potential future build.