[homeros8000]

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Originally Posted by shane55 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well? I'm interested in your findings (and in these cans). shane

Thanks Shane! Acutally they sound great. They lack the refined sound of the AKGs in some areas, but the HD600 has larger, bigger, and more involving sound. I Listened to Shostakovitch's 9th Symphony and SQ No.11 and both were amazing. But I still prefer the K702 for piano music.

 

[Eagle Eye]

I guess I agree with most of the comments about the HD 600 and HD 650. The 600 sounded a little more transparent but had a little less bass than the 650. I sold the 600 and kept the 650 but that was my opinion. I think you could not go wrong with either for classical though. I have sense moved on to the ATH W5000 and could not be happier. I tried both the 600 and 650 balanced and if possible that would be a smart idea with these phones. I do not want to start an argument concerning recable and not so that is all I will say. Final word is I could live with either 600 or 650 for classical for quite some time. Hope this helps.

 

[carledwards]

I prefer the 650 for jazz but they are certainly capable of doing a good job with classical, too. For classical, I prefer the GS1K or K701. But (and this is a very important point), you MUST have the right amplification for any of these cans to deliver their best.

 

[homeros8000]

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Originally Posted by carledwards /img/forum/go_quote.gif you MUST have the right amplification for any of these cans to deliver their best.

That's my problem

I have a tube Amp which doesn't match well with my K701, I'm considering DT800 600 ohm right now.

 

[shane55]

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Originally Posted by homeros8000 /img/forum/go_quote.gif That's my problem I have a tube Amp which doesn't match well with my K701, I'm considering DT800 600 ohm right now.

(I think you meant the DT880 600 ohm)

Anyway, I just received my HD600 today. I'm still at work

and will need some time at home with proper amplification to really comment.

But...

Holy Head Clamp! These puppies are TIGHT, and I've got a narrow head.

I did plug them into my iPod Classic (all Lossless) and they sound very good... considering the source.
I'll be home late tonight, but I will be comparing them to my Beyer DT880 - 250 ohm.

More to come.

@ homeros8000.
Now that you've had them for a weekend... any Baroque tracks played?

shane

 

[aimlink]

I definitely prefer the HD600's for classical. I've tried them both with classical and the HD600's bring those violins, viola's and clarinets into full focus while they're not quite there with the HD650's.

With some recordings, both cans are nigh unto indistinguishable. However, with recordings that emphasize some parts of the frequency spectrum, their differences are quite evident.

 

[chinesekiwi]

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Originally Posted by homeros8000 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm considering DT800 600 ohm right now.

Right choice tbh (I do mean this from a objective view tbh as I have tried all of them mentioned). Sure, it may not have the wide (note: artificial) or soundstage depth of the AKG K701 but has much more timbre, and that's what counts in classical a lot (and other music too, timbre is severely underrated and undermentioned as a factor here). Timbre is quite important to me tbh.

 

[Cankin]

For classical, you will also want a headphone with really accurate imaging, both K701, HD600 and GS1000 are good in this department.

The size and shape of soundstage are some other important factors too. This is where HD600/HD650 fall short, they have that left-center-right shape only nothing in between left and center nor center and right. On the other hand, reviews of HD800 by those I trust, saying HD800 do not have this problem.

Finally, I really hope DT880/600 is a huge improvement over DT880/250 which IMO failed in terms of imaging, size and shape of soundstage, tone and etc. It is the worst sounding headphone along side with D2000 and AD2000 for me.

 

[shane55]

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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi /img/forum/go_quote.gif Right choice tbh (I do mean this from a objective view tbh as I have tried all of them mentioned). Sure, it may not have the wide (note: artificial) or soundstage depth of the AKG K701 but has much more timbre, and that's what counts in classical a lot (and other music too, timbre is severely underrated and undermentioned as a factor here). Timbre is quite important to me tbh.

I'm with you on the soundstage part.
It's relatively important... but only relatively. Accuracy and natural sonic signiture are more important to me for these cans.

Timbre:
"Acoustics, Phonetics. the characteristic quality of a sound, independent of pitch and loudness, from which its source or manner of production can be inferred. Timbre depends on the relative strengths of the components of different frequencies, which are determined by resonance."

Yes, I'd say that it's important.

shane

 

[shane55]

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Originally Posted by Cankin /img/forum/go_quote.gif For classical, you will also want a headphone with really accurate imaging, both K701, HD600 and GS1000 are good in this department. The size and shape of soundstage are some other important factors too. This is where HD600/HD650 fall short, they have that left-center-right shape only nothing in between left and center nor center and right. On the other hand, reviews of HD800 by those I trust, saying HD800 do not have this problem. Finally, I really hope DT880/600 is a huge improvement over DT880/250 which IMO failed in terms of imaging, size and shape of soundstage, tone and etc. It is the worst sounding headphone along side with D2000 and AD2000 for me.

When are you getting the DT880/600?
I'll be interested in how you think they compare to the HD600 and the 250 ohm version.

I have the DT800/250 now and just received the HD600. I have also been very curious of the DT880/600.

shane

 

[Cankin]

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Originally Posted by shane55 /img/forum/go_quote.gif When are you getting the DT880/600? I'll be interested in how you think they compare to the HD600 and the 250 ohm version. I have the DT800/250 now and just received the HD600. I have also been very curious of the DT880/600. shane

I'm not interested in Beyer anymore, except T1. Even if I'm getting it, I'll demo it before purchase for sure.

 

[chinesekiwi]

Oh hi, I love to link my thread but really, it's what you need for comparisons:

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/bey...thread-429371/

apatN sold his HD600 after he got the DT880/600.

 

[Cankin]

You can just put the link in your sig., you're posting that link everyday anyways

 

[flaming_june]

haha, the man's proud. he should get paid from them.

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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi /img/forum/go_quote.gif apatN sold his HD600 after he got the DT880/600.

I don't doubt it. For all I've seen (not heard) it seems the 880s are a more neutral and full headphone at 3/4 of the price of a sennheiser HD6XX.

 

[Ridleyguy]

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Originally Posted by homeros8000 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I've been searching tons of threads about both (the results are controversial ). I have the AKG K702 recabled with ASL MG Head OTL+ HR Ultra Micro DAC and it sounds great. But I need mellower sound and smoother highs. I know the Senn HD6xx can do the trick, but which one? I'm mostly interested in chamber music.

I would seriously consider the ATH-W1000X. It leaves the HD650 and K701 in the dust on chamber music, IMO.