Schiit Lyr - The tube rolling thread
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Jun 14, 2013 at 10:19 AM Post #7,652 of 8,735
Interesting, I thought Amperex was a Philips brand, never heard of Siemens tubes being sold under the Amperex brand.
 
According to the Wikipedia article:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amperex_Electronic , Amperex was an independent company that was purchased by Philips.
 
I wonder what the pre-Philips acquisition tubes were like...
 
Mercedesman's description of those Amperex makes me really curious.  Now I'm eager to hear your impressions.
 
Jun 14, 2013 at 1:18 PM Post #7,654 of 8,735
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Got some more tubes on the way.
 
First pair is Tesla E88CC gold pins made in Czechoslovakia.
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261219395120?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
 
2nd pair are some Amperex ECC88 tubes made in Germany. I'm guessing they were made by Siemens but who knows?
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321126601279?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
 
And still waiting for my Voskhod 6N23P's to turn up, so much fun will be had soon

Our friends from TubeMonger had some input on your second tube link:
 
"this is a tesla ecc88 tube. always pay attention to the bottle and internals. labels mean nothing.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321126601279?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
 
you can get originals for less. "
 
I'm just the messenger...
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Cheers!
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-HK sends
 
Jun 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM Post #7,657 of 8,735
That's what makes this hobby so interesting !
Part science.
Part subjectivity 
Part "Vegas Baby"
 
Jun 14, 2013 at 2:45 PM Post #7,658 of 8,735
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Interesting, I thought Amperex was a Philips brand, never heard of Siemens tubes being sold under the Amperex brand.

 
Somehow Philips was in cahoots with Siemens as well. Philips, for example, didn't make E83CCs but sold E83CCs made by Siemens: http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-NOS-PHILIPS-SQ%20-E83CC-12AX7-ECC83-PREAMP-TUBE-AUDIO-VALVES-NEW-RARE-/180986421398
 
Anyway, they all sourced tubes from other manufacturers at times. No company made all the types after all.
 
According to the Wikipedia article:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amperex_Electronic , Amperex was an independent company that was purchased by Philips.
 
I wonder what the pre-Philips acquisition tubes were like...

 
Amperex was a maker of transmitting tubes. See https://www.tubeworld.com/845.htm#845amp for an example.
 
Jun 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM Post #7,662 of 8,735
Buy a pair, they're cheap enough 
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I'm intrigued by the getter post, i thought siemens used a straight post on their getters and telefunken a sloped one?

Siemens getters: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MATCHED-PAIR-ECC88-6DJ8-SIEMENS-MUNICH-FACTORY-NOS-NEW-OWN-BOX-/370830981233?pt=DE_TV_Video_Audio_Elektronenr%C3%B6hren_Valves&hash=item56573fb871


Telefunken getters: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TELEFUNKEN-ECC88-LOGO-TESTED-/380405362390?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item5891ed2ed6


I'm hoping those Amperex's have the diamond in the bottom.

On another note, just got my Voskhod 6N23P's and without even burning them in they're blowing the Amperex (Holland) PQ orange label 6DJ8's out of the water, very similar signature but the soundstaging of the Voskhods is massive.

Rolled in a pair from 1974, and have a backup pair but they are 1978, will check them out another time, gonna give the 74's some burn in.
got mine but gotta go.
 
Jun 14, 2013 at 4:45 PM Post #7,663 of 8,735
Hey guys, for the record, I'm not actually following the thread today due to being under the weather.  However, I am passing this information on from TubeMonger because they are genuinely trying to be helpful to us.  Here you go:
 
From TubeMonger:
 
"Did not mean to be curt. Shall write list of tips to id tubes for the board later today.
 
Mercedesman is an honest and upfront seller. He offers great values in desirable tubes. It is likely he was duped in this instance. He may not be familiar with the nuances of the various fakes coming out of former Czechoslovakia. Good news is that tube in question are genuine Tesla ECC88 tubes."
 
Hope this helps...
 
Cheers!
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-HK sends
 
Jun 14, 2013 at 5:42 PM Post #7,665 of 8,735
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Somehow Philips was in cahoots with Siemens as well. Philips, for example, didn't make E83CCs but sold E83CCs made by Siemens: http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-NOS-PHILIPS-SQ%20-E83CC-12AX7-ECC83-PREAMP-TUBE-AUDIO-VALVES-NEW-RARE-/180986421398
 
Anyway, they all sourced tubes from other manufacturers at times. No company made all the types after all.
 
 
Amperex was a maker of transmitting tubes. See https://www.tubeworld.com/845.htm#845amp for an example.

 
 
Very interesting.  Thanks!  
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