RME ADI-2 DAC Thread
Oct 25, 2019 at 1:52 AM Post #1,681 of 5,998
Strange, to me the BL sounded a bit 'cinema sound system-like'. Mojo had more natural voices and instruments, although it sounded a bit thinner.
TT2 is all about space, insight, transparency and ultimate realism. R2R is not my cup of tea.
Is the TT2 a huge jump from H2 in terms of pure SQ ? Will it be similar to moving from a Mojo to H2 ?
 
Oct 25, 2019 at 4:30 AM Post #1,682 of 5,998
Is the TT2 a huge jump from H2 in terms of pure SQ ? Will it be similar to moving from a Mojo to H2 ?
To me the TT2 is Mojo's tonality and H2's technicality multiplied by 5. Compared to H2 the sound is more spacious, 3D imaging is even better, the sound is meatier and even more natural/realistic. It is an expensive piece of kit and H2 is already a great DAC, but TT2 for me is another level.
But we are derailing the thread here...
 
Oct 25, 2019 at 4:36 AM Post #1,683 of 5,998
Hmm, given that DACs have the explicit goal of reproducing the signal as “true-to-source” as possible, it follows that competently engineered DACs will all sound alike. Objective measurements of the RME show it’s audibly transparent so I’m of the opinion that any improvements are likely due to “price placebo”.
Even more so, consider this : RME is a DAC + DSP so it's hard to argue that its sound is worth its price. If it would have been the case then the DSP would be there for free which is bollocks. Unless the DSP makes it's sound? But then how could it be transparent? It's not easy, is it :). I guess the value of this thing is in customization, not pure SQ. That's grand, nothing wrong with it. Having said that, one could make an argument that something like Mytek Liberty et al. has SQ worth its money as it is a pure bare-bone DAC which neither has a DSP nor even a display.
 
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Oct 25, 2019 at 9:06 AM Post #1,684 of 5,998
Even more so, consider this : RME is a DAC + DSP so it's hard to argue that its sound is worth its price. If it would have been the case then the DSP would be there for free which is bollocks. Unless the DSP makes it's sound? But then how could it be transparent? It's not easy, is it :). I guess the value of this thing is in customization, not pure SQ. That's grand, nothing wrong with it. Having said that, one could make an argument that something like Mytek Liberty et al. has SQ worth its money as it is a pure bare-bone DAC which neither has a DSP nor even a display.

I’m not sure that makes any sense, particularly in light of the objective measurements for the RME over on ASR prove it’s transparent
 
Oct 25, 2019 at 9:29 AM Post #1,685 of 5,998
I’m not sure that makes any sense, particularly in light of the objective measurements for the RME over on ASR prove it’s transparent

I agree. In this hobby we cannot say that something that costs 1500 eur is 50% better in terms of sound quality than something that costs 1000 eur, or 10% or 5%. It could be at the same level of SQ, worse, it could be just the brand name, marketing strategy, that makes it more expensive, etc. There is no official measurement system deciding prices (like say the speed of PC graphic cards = price level). If there would be something, based on measurements the ADI-2 is somewhere at the top based on the list that was posted above. Also above, someone made the point that the ADI-2 was made by RME for the pro market where price inflation is much lower than in the audiophile market.
 
Oct 25, 2019 at 11:06 AM Post #1,686 of 5,998
To me the TT2 is Mojo's tonality and H2's technicality multiplied by 5. Compared to H2 the sound is more spacious, 3D imaging is even better, the sound is meatier and even more natural/realistic. It is an expensive piece of kit and H2 is already a great DAC, but TT2 for me is another level.
But we are derailing the thread here...
Thanks :)
 
Oct 28, 2019 at 12:59 PM Post #1,687 of 5,998
I have the Hugo2 and the ADI-2. both are great products and sound great.
But both sound very different to me. The RME f.e. sounds cleaner more reference like. The Hugo in comparison more musical.
Hugo has also a punchier sound but on the other side more background noise with sensitive InEars.
In fact they are so different that I kept them both for different listening purposes.
 
Oct 30, 2019 at 8:25 AM Post #1,689 of 5,998
Oct 31, 2019 at 7:49 AM Post #1,690 of 5,998
Hi all, I currently use a Violectric V220 amplifier. Anyone can tell me how is the RME headphone amplifier compared to Violectric? Is the sound quality good enough?

Also...I use Grado GH2 headphones, what EQ curves could I use?
 
Oct 31, 2019 at 8:46 AM Post #1,691 of 5,998
Hi all, I currently use a Violectric V220 amplifier. Anyone can tell me how is the RME headphone amplifier compared to Violectric? Is the sound quality good enough?

Also...I use Grado GH2 headphones, what EQ curves could I use?

Well for one transformer hum won't be audible on the RME as it is on the Violectric. The RME also has dozens of features while the Violectric just amplifies. The sound quality of the RME far exceeds where humans would be capable of discerning as a difference. You can use any EQ curve you want.
 
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Nov 1, 2019 at 3:13 AM Post #1,692 of 5,998
Boy..the ADI-2 beats my Audio-GD NOS11 on my new Harbeth SHL5+ 40th speakers.. The Audio GD is still great with my HD800S..(used them on adi2-V280 combi which was great though not very musical)
Absolute best I ever heard with my Harbeth SHL5+ was Audiobyte Black Dragon DAC - presentation and 3D starting from 1 cm before your nose and ending well beyond front wall and ceiling, every instrument perfectly placed and separated...
Adi 2 plays good but the presentation is thin and ONLY on the speaker line, so nowhere near interesting. Separation and positioning is very average compared to Gungnir MB or Black Dragon.
 
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Nov 10, 2019 at 2:44 AM Post #1,693 of 5,998
Balance cable for Diana Abyss :)
RME is very good!


 

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Nov 11, 2019 at 3:34 PM Post #1,694 of 5,998
I have the Hugo2 and the ADI-2. both are great products and sound great.
But both sound very different to me. The RME f.e. sounds cleaner more reference like. The Hugo in comparison more musical.
Hugo has also a punchier sound but on the other side more background noise with sensitive InEars.
In fact they are so different that I kept them both for different listening purposes.

Would you say that you can hear much difference between the two in terms of IEM listening in general? Like, do you find Hugo2 detracts from the music more than the ‘inky-black’ background in the ADI-2? Or is it negligible?

I’ve got a Hugo2 currently (briefly had a ADI-2 before but didn’t have my IEMs then)... but almost feel I don’t need it for just IEMs.

Got me thinking whether I could sell the Hugo2 and replace with an ADI-2 again and use the residual funds for something else (new headphones etc). This would be on the proviso that chasing the black background is worth it.

Third option is I have neither the Hugo2 nor ADI-2 and just use the IEMs with my portable setup (NW-ZX2). Hmm..
 
Nov 11, 2019 at 3:42 PM Post #1,695 of 5,998
I am curious if anyone here has the d7200 and played with eq? Dont know how valid its with driver variation byt would be fun to try.
 

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