[Priidik]

project86's review of Yulong DA-8 drew my attention recently. A bit off topic, but i am very curious.
 
Would DA-8 be better than Yulong D100 + V200 with HD800's? 
 
HP amp on DA-8 is supposedly somewhere between HP amp on D100 and V200, so i am hoping it should have ample juice to drive HD800.
 
I wonder how would the dynamics and soundstage depth compare...
 
The DAC upgrade should be significant, and i have read that in general DAC has more impact on HD800 sound than amp (assuming amp has the electrical capabilities for HD800) ?!

 

[project86]

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project86's review of Yulong DA-8 drew my attention recently. A bit off topic, but i am very curious.
 
Would DA-8 be better than Yulong D100 + V200 with HD800's? 
 
HP amp on DA-8 is supposedly somewhere between HP amp on D100 and V200, so i am hoping it should have ample juice to drive HD800.
 
I wonder how would the dynamics and soundstage depth compare...
 
The DAC upgrade should be significant, and i have read that in general DAC has more impact on HD800 sound than amp (assuming amp has the electrical capabilities for HD800) ?!

 
It would be roughly the same, give or take. The D100/V200 system would have more drive, would be more musical and "fun", deeper bass, that sort of thing. Definitely more dynamic.
 
The DA8 has more subtleties, texture, nuance, detail. Imaging would be more precise and soundstage more layered.
 
Basically they would be be very enjoyable but for slightly different reasons. Either way you'd enjoy it, but probably be tempted to upgrade the "lesser" component down the road.

 

[Priidik]

Thanks project86! 
 
Tough call still though. 
I might try DA-8 first, i was sort of forgeting that i have 5000$ speaker set that would benefit from dac aswell.
 
Still, that V200 will hount me for this..

 

[2000impreza]

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It would be roughly the same, give or take. The D100/V200 system would have more drive, would be more musical and "fun", deeper bass, that sort of thing. Definitely more dynamic.
 
The DA8 has more subtleties, texture, nuance, detail. Imaging would be more precise and soundstage more layered.
 
Basically they would be be very enjoyable but for slightly different reasons. Either way you'd enjoy it, but probably be tempted to upgrade the "lesser" component down the road.

 
Agreed for the most part. The V200 would be able to drive to louder volumes due to higher current and voltage gains. Quality is subjective from that point on. I would give the edge to the DA8 over the D100/v200 in overall quality.

 

[FlySweep]

V200 sounds excellent with all my phones.. but the Vio stack seems to have a special affinity for the Beyer DT880/600.  Oh my.. what a terrific combo!  I email Fried and told him how great it sounded, in fact.  I'm convinced Beyer used a lot of Vio/LP gear when they were tuning the 880/600... LOL.

 

[project86]

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V200 sounds excellent with all my phones.. but the Vio stack seems to have a special affinity for the Beyer DT880/600.  Oh my.. what a terrific combo!  I email Fried and told him how great it sounded, in fact.  I'm convinced Beyer used a lot of Vio/LP gear when they were tuning the 880/600... LOL.

 
Maybe, but I bet they would claim to have used their own A1 amp. 

 

[FlySweep]

 
Maybe, but I bet they would claim to have used their own A1 amp. 

But, of course.. LOL.
 
Though the DT880's been around for a little while, no?  I'm not sure when Beyer started developing the A1.. but I'd suspect even the prototypes (and in-house use) post-dates the DT880 release?

 

[project86]

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But, of course.. LOL.
 
Though the DT880's been around for a little while, no?  I'm not sure when Beyer started developing the A1.. but I'd suspect even the prototypes (and in-house use) post-dates the DT880 release?

 
Good point. A1 released in the USA in late 2009, early 2010, but I could have sworn it was well known prior to that. Maybe international models made their way here or something. But you're right, DT880 has been around forever. Probably not many dedicated amps around when they built the early DT880s. 

 

[TokenGesture]

Any one tired the Beyerdynamic T5p with the V200? To my ears it is very disappointing, thin, harsh sound. Quite unlike the T1 pairing which sounds excellent.
 
Still looking for a closed headphone that pairs well with V200 

 

[project86]

That pretty much describes the T5P regardless of amp, IMHO. It's just not a very good headphone period.

 

[FlySweep]

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That pretty much describes the T5P regardless of amp, IMHO. It's just not a very good headphone period.

 

 
Tell us how you really feel, John.. LOL!

 

[TokenGesture]

Ha ha. Well I'm not going to get into an argument about the T5p - I've heard it sound a lot better than it does from V200 is all ill say

Any closed can have a particular synergy with V200?

 

[project86]

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Ha ha. Well I'm not going to get into an argument about the T5p - I've heard it sound a lot better than it does from V200 is all ill say

Any closed can have a particular synergy with V200?

 
Yeah I can understand that - imo T5P would need some extreme coloration from the source and amp to sound halfway decent. I'd imagine a really warm, really smooth tube amp would do the trick, but finding one of those with a low output impedance would be the problem.
 
I liked the W1000X with the V200, and I currently use the Thunderpants with fantastic results. They take a lot of juice to really wake up, and the V200 does that better than most. I imagine the same thing would follow with a Paradox or Mad Dog/Alpha Dog. 

 

[dallan]

I am currently using the V200 with a closed phone, the W3000anv.  I use them often together and sounds great.  I also used to use it with the DX1000 and that worked well as i recall too.

 

[RockyRoad]

I used to listen RS1i and K701 with v200. But I sold them all. Now I'm kind of missing v200. Are there any news about v282?