[project86]

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I think it will be a good idea for violectric to sell an audiophile power conditioner  box  with an ultra clean sine output  inaudible noise and the same form factor as the vxxxx line  for  all those persons   that believe  that ac current quality  is a must for the quality of audio

 
Well that would depend on them agreeing with your point of view. If they don't find any convincing technical reason to do so, then they shouldn't build such a device. Or if they do build it despite not really thinking it works, then they would be dishonest. 
 
I think designers and companies should stick with areas that they know about and care about. Don't just do a tube amp because tube amps are hot sellers. Don't just do a headphone amp because those are hot right now (ahem - Cary Audio), don't make aftermarket cables because the margins can be high.... you get my point. 

 

[Agarvaen]

How would V200 work with Odac DAC?

 

[brat]

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How would V200 work with Odac DAC?

It will work well with every dac but it deserves a really good dac. I've listened to ODAC and made some comparisons, and I'd say it's a mediocre dac, nothing more, nothing less. V200 needs something much better to show it's capabilities. Now I'm listening to V200 with the volume pot turned to the max and I command the volume with DAC202U. It sounds amazing...

 

[Rico613]

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Now I'm listening to V200 with the volume pot turned to the max and I command the volume with DAC . . .. It sounds amazing...

 
 
 
^ ^ ^  Yea . . . like that !!! . . .

 

[Gwarmi]

 Here's a parting shot of the setup at the moment - in a word - cramped!! 

 
 It took me the best part of 10 minutes just to carefully plug everything in.
 Overall, I'm happy with the performance of my unopened V200
 
 
 
 @Project 86
 
 RE: Manufacturers trying to make everything under the sun - reminds me of HiFiMan - I'm still
 waiting for his all in one music server that also doubles up as a hot dog stand. Coming soon

 

[project86]

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 @Project 86
 
 RE: Manufacturers trying to make everything under the sun - reminds me of HiFiMan - I'm still
 waiting for his all in one music server that also doubles up as a hot dog stand. Coming soon

Ha! 
 
I don't necessarily have a problem with a company offering a wide variety of gear. They just shouldn't do it for the heck of it, where it is clear that the motive is making a sale rather than a good product. 
 
Examples would be: a company like Violectric suddenly offering high-priced cables. Or a company that offers expensive room tuning products based on "quantum" principles suddenly offering a DAC that claims all sorts of technical accomplishments. Or a digital specialist like EMM Labs suddenly coming out with a high-end turntable. It's not that they CAN'T come up with a good product in a wildly different category... but to me it would seem unlikely to be competitive, and frankly a little desperate. 
 
It's a little like speaker companies diving into the headphone business, though I guess that makes more sense than cable companies. 

 

[spkrs01]

I am not too bother who makes what as long as the product sounds good!
 
Technology has advanced enough for manufacturers to produce whatever they desire. But, having said that and more importantly, I think the designer/owner needs to have good ears or that an established company needs to have a defined house sound that they constantly try to improve.
 
I, for one, prefer established companies that has a house sound rather than a new company reliant upon excellent measurements.

 

[qawsedrf]

 Here's a parting shot of the setup at the moment - in a word - cramped!! 

 It took me the best part of 10 minutes just to carefully plug everything in.
 Overall, I'm happy with the performance of my unopened V200

 

Wicked! Time to update your siggy?

 

[baritone]

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A good double conversion UPS does that.

 
Take only in account  that most of the ups single or double conversion output a pseudo square wave and not sine  you have to choice the right one
I had tie opportunity to work for a company for about one year repairing all kind of ups  in the second converting stage (after you convert from ac to dc)
you have to covert  the dc to ac again  to a clean synthesized  sine or as I said  it before converted to a pseudo square wave

 

[project86]

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I am not too bother who makes what as long as the product sounds good!
 
Technology has advanced enough for manufacturers to produce whatever they desire. But, having said that and more importantly, I think the designer/owner needs to have good ears or that an established company needs to have a defined house sound that they constantly try to improve.
 
I, for one, prefer established companies that has a house sound rather than a new company reliant upon excellent measurements.

 
I'm certainly willing to give new stuff a chance. Like when (if?) Cardas releases their IEMs, then I'll give them a shot. 
 
I guess what I'm trying to say is that companies need to make stuff that they feel they can do a good job on. Usually that comes from some passion to create, rather than just spotting a hole in your lineup and filling it. When you do that, you end up with someone like Monster making speakers (failure) or Klipsch making headphones (a few hits but mostly misses). I hope this makes sense. 

 

[xzobinx]

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 RE: Manufacturers trying to make everything under the sun - reminds me of HiFiMan - I'm still
 waiting for his all in one music server that also doubles up as a hot dog stand. Coming soon

does the ath umbrella count ?

 

[paradoxper]

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Take only in account  that most of the ups single or double conversion output a pseudo square wave and not sine  you have to choice the right one
I had tie opportunity to work for a company for about one year repairing all kind of ups  in the second converting stage (after you convert from ac to dc)
you have to covert  the dc to ac again  to a clean synthesized  sine or as I said  it before converted to a pseudo square wave

I've never used a double conversion UPS that only converted from ac to dc (they all also converted the dc to ac for the cleanest power)
 
If you could throw up a link to any 1 double conversion UPS that you know fails to enter the second converting stage. I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

 

[stevenlongs]

Hi guys,
 
first off I would like to say I love the sound that is coming from my HRT MS II -> V200.  That said, I can't help but wonder if they can sound better with a different DAC. 
 
I was reading this review comparing the EE Minimax vs Schiit Bifrost.  The minimax seems to be a bit of a dark paring with the v200 especially since i'm already listening through HD650s.  Have any of you had experiences with pairing up the Bifrost with the V200?  Are there better options in the sub-1000 range? There doesn't seem to be many people that have the v800 let alone for sale. Too pricy to have them shipped brand new 

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Things i'm worried about with v200 + hd650 with a new dac would be:
 
1) soundstage  2) treble getting rolled off / darkness. I like where the treble currently is, wouldn't mind more-of.
 
Any ideas/input/recommendations are welcome

 

[Gwarmi]

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Hi guys,
 
first off I would like to say I love the sound that is coming from my HRT MS II -> V200.  That said, I can't help but wonder if they can sound better with a different DAC. 
 
I was reading this review comparing the EE Minimax vs Schiit Bifrost.  The minimax seems to be a bit of a dark paring with the v200 especially since i'm already listening through HD650s.  Have any of you had experiences with pairing up the Bifrost with the V200?  Are there better options in the sub-1000 range? There doesn't seem to be many people that have the v800 let alone for sale. Too pricy to have them shipped brand new 

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Things i'm worried about with v200 + hd650 with a new dac would be:
 
1) soundstage  2) treble getting rolled off / darkness. I like where the treble currently is, wouldn't mind more-of.
 
Any ideas/input/recommendations are welcome

 
 
  The Eastern Electric? No actual 'vis a vis' experience with the V200 but my limited impressions suggest that
  the final result will depend on your willingness to tube roll and mod' this thing - exactly what the manufacturer
  had in mind in the first place..
 
  Alternatively, if your tastes sway towards a more neutral nature then the AudioLab M-DAC (particularly if you like full featured and optioned DAC's)
  or the recently updated Audio-gd Reference 5.2 PCM1704UK deserve a mention.
 
 Regardless of source if seeking to maximize that setup - grab hold of  a decent aftermarket cable for the HD650 and invest into decent, if not
 above average interconnects and power cords ~ all up to you ~ you will surprise yourself.

 

[spkrs01]

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Hi guys,
 
first off I would like to say I love the sound that is coming from my HRT MS II -> V200.  That said, I can't help but wonder if they can sound better with a different DAC. 
 
I was reading this review comparing the EE Minimax vs Schiit Bifrost.  The minimax seems to be a bit of a dark paring with the v200 especially since i'm already listening through HD650s.  Have any of you had experiences with pairing up the Bifrost with the V200?  Are there better options in the sub-1000 range? There doesn't seem to be many people that have the v800 let alone for sale. Too pricy to have them shipped brand new 

.
 
Things i'm worried about with v200 + hd650 with a new dac would be:
 
1) soundstage  2) treble getting rolled off / darkness. I like where the treble currently is, wouldn't mind more-of.
 
Any ideas/input/recommendations are welcome

 
I would highly recommend the Bladelius usb DAC.  Very nice synergy with the V200. A very elegant solution. Not as neutral nor detailed as the V800..............but very balanced and sweet sounding DAC. I have a SPC cable on my HD650......Plus it is from an established Mid-Fi company with a good house sound!!!