Jun 19, 2016 at 9:36 AM Post #6,361 of 7,021
  I've been rotating the ASG2, ASG2.5 and Ref1.
 
I have to agree with the above and do like the ASG2 over the ASG2.5 at this point. There's something above the sound signature I just like more.
 
However, you can't really go wrong with either.

 
 
That's because you have my old pair of 2.0, in all their glory.
 
Let me display them in their finest moment, wearing their bestest cable.
 

 
And this cable.
 

 
And this cable.
 

 
And this cable.
 

 
And this cable.
 

 
And this cable.
 

 
Jun 19, 2016 at 9:41 AM Post #6,362 of 7,021




 
Jun 19, 2016 at 10:31 AM Post #6,363 of 7,021
The 2.0 has a much muddier overall signature. Not much different from the ASG 1.5 or the ASG-B.

The 2.5 cleans up the loose ends of the 2.0 and presents a much more cohesive sound. Amping them properly is pretty essential for a good sound as they can sip power like a full size headphone. .


Completely agree. Kind of ironic, most that know me believed I'd prefer the asg g2.
 
Jun 19, 2016 at 11:17 AM Post #6,364 of 7,021
   
 
That's because you have my old pair of 2.0, in all their glory.
 
Let me display them in their finest moment, wearing their bestest cable.

That's alot of glamour shots lol.
 
I have not tried them with the Silver/Gold cable yet.
 
Jun 19, 2016 at 11:38 AM Post #6,365 of 7,021
  That's alot of glamour shots lol.
 
I have not tried them with the Silver/Gold cable yet.

 
One of the finest songs for 2.0 is London Grammar - Shyer. It was this song which decided what I chose between 2.0 and 2.5. This was the last song I played between the two before packing the demo 2.5 away and returning them to their owner.
 
Play that one day with my old 2.0 quite loud, listen to the vocals and meat in her voice.
 
 

 
Anyway, I'm not here to say A is better than B.
 
Been there, done that... 
 
Jun 19, 2016 at 6:52 PM Post #6,366 of 7,021
Anyway, reading at this last page, I can confirm, that both ASG 2.0 and 2.5 are excellent investments, in case it wouldn't be clear at this point.
 
2.0: enraged beast with addictive mids (I would dare to say they are a distant cousin of HA-FX850, with more isolation.
2.5: gentle beast with flatter response (port closed, and I didn't say flat, but flatter than 2.0).
 
You can't really go wrong with 2.5, 2.0 are not for everyone.
 
Jun 20, 2016 at 1:45 PM Post #6,369 of 7,021
From the very first post in this thread
 
Quote:
  To test the difference between the ASG-2 and 2.5, I tried something I've never done before. Using the stock cable, I attached the ASG-2 left earpiece, and the ASG-2.5 right earpiece so I could get a raw estimation of the differences.
 
  1. Firstly, the ASG-2 is dramatically more sensitive and easier to drive. A result of the different driver, perhaps?
  2. The ASG-2.5 has a loooot less bass than the ASG-2, with bassports closed on both. Both mid and sub-bass.
  3. This will make A/B'ing interesting.
  4. I actually found myself wishing for more bass at times...from an ASG series. Hmm.
  5. I actually forgot how remarkable the ASG-2 is for being able to deliver such a sheer amount of impact and bass without ever impacting the midrange or treble.
 
 
At this point, I started listening with both earpieces to get more concrete thoughts. I'll do my best to volume match closely.
 
  1. With bass ports closed, the ASG-2.5 sounds a fair bit dryer than its predecessor. I fired up Amy Winehouse's "Valerie" from the Back to Black album...the version where she apologizes to Charlie Murphy for having too much fun... the one with the heavy bass line...At first, the 2.5 sounds a bit boring because of the reduced emphasis in the low end. Still by the time the middle of the song rolls around, I have a bass induced headache from the raw impact of the ASG-2.
  2. I switched over to Ben Howard's "Only Love", and truly the only difference I could find were in the quantity of bass, and the overall sensitivity. So, I decided to play with the passport settings on the ASG-2.5 to see if Unity's harsh but accurate BloatPortTM moniker was still valid.
  3. I decided to skip the small talk and open the port to half blast...instant bass headache. The ports are no less effective, I see. I retreated to closed, then opened slightly. The boost still isn't as clean as it could be, but there's a bit more flexibility since the 2.5's stock bass is less than that of the original.
 
 
Overall, I'd say the differences are this. The ASG-2.5 sounds more...restrained than its predecessor. The ASG-2's bass is rather visceral in nature. The raw attack and punch, even with the ports closed, is awe inspiring. I think I prefer the older version for more bass centric genres, simply because the 2.5 can't mimic the 2's bass signature. The 2 retains much of the 2.5's tightness, while having pure ferocity when the song calls for it.
 
The fight scene below essentially sums up the difference between the bass presentation of the ASG-2 and ASG-2.5. The 2 is represented by Bane, and the 2.5 is Batman. Pay special attention starting at 2:40
 

 
 
 
However there are times, many times, when the ASG-2's bass was just too much for a song, similar to how Bane's mask was his downfall. The 2.5 has no such problem, as it has been overall tamed. Consider the ASG-2 the bad boy that women love when they are younger because he is so exciting and keeps them on their toes. As they get older though, the warm security of the suited gentleman becomes more and more appealing. This is the crux of the matter here.
 
You'll notice I spent the entire review primarily discussing the bass. It is the most evident change when comparing the two side by side, and it is no small difference. As for the bassport, it's still not going to deliver that clean boost that we so hoped for. Perhaps the size of the driver, plus the quantity of air the port lets in contribute to the sheer mass of bass that one gets when the port is used.
 
All in all, it's still more or less the Aurisonics house sound. Amazing vocals, smooth treble, and a very textured sound that lays cues out in front of you like you were standing in the presence of the performers. The 2.5 will be better for those who thought the ASG-2 could simply do with less bass and slightly more present upper mids.
 
Warrior1975 need not apply 
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Jun 20, 2016 at 4:57 PM Post #6,370 of 7,021
Please elaborate, because that's what the 2.0 do without any EQ-ing or amping.
Not that I'm against EQ-ing, but some explanations would help.


Without EQ and 3/4 bass port, the 2.5 can match the 2.0.

With EQ, the 2.0 need not apply. Except the ASG-B, nothing seems to match the sheer low end grunt the 2.5 can serve up. I use bass boost on my amplifier too BTW.

My poor 1.5 aren't even getting any headtime anymore.
 
Jun 20, 2016 at 5:40 PM Post #6,371 of 7,021
Without EQ and 3/4 bass port, the 2.5 can match the 2.0.

With EQ, the 2.0 need not apply. Except the ASG-B, nothing seems to match the sheer low end grunt the 2.5 can serve up. I use bass boost on my amplifier too BTW.

My poor 1.5 aren't even getting any headtime anymore.


Opening the bass port more than 1/4 on the 2.5 gives a bad bass rumble which lacks control, it has nothing to do with the big bass of the 2.0 in my opinion.
For sure it's moving air, but it lacks quality because the decay becomes too slow when the port opening increases. Compared to HA-FX850 "fast and furious" bass, it sounds obvious.
 
Eke2k6's post explains it quite well.
 
Jun 20, 2016 at 6:13 PM Post #6,373 of 7,021
The FX850 is more audiophile bass than Basshead bass. Can't compare the two as FX850 has better technicalities but 2.5 has more raw grunt. Scalpel vs Hammer, if you will.


I actually disliked the FX850. I found it sounded hollow, and lacked refinement in the mids and treble compared to the G series and Rockets
 
Jun 20, 2016 at 6:22 PM Post #6,374 of 7,021
I actually disliked the FX850. I found it sounded hollow, and lacked refinement in the mids and treble compared to the G series and Rockets


Maybe, but the timbre makes up for it in spades. =p
I still occasionally think of the JVC woodies, fondly. Maybe the next generation haha.

But, I can without hesitation stand by the Rockets being one of the most composed and refined sets I've had the pleasure of hearing.
 
Jun 20, 2016 at 6:44 PM Post #6,375 of 7,021
Maybe, but the timbre makes up for it in spades. =p
I still occasionally think of the JVC woodies, fondly. Maybe the next generation haha.

But, I can without hesitation stand by the Rockets being one of the most composed and refined sets I've had the pleasure of hearing.


Oh crap dude. Where ya been? Busy adulting?

Ditto on the Rockets. And it's the price that kills me. I've put it against sets that cost *literally* 10-20x as much, and they never cease to amaze me.
 

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