Hi all
I have been asked about the Utopias previously in this thread and i've just spent some time listening to the Utopias, My Z1R and the VE8
I'm not a reviewer of any sorts but i think it could be interesting with some short notes on the differences when it comes to bass, soundstage and "separation/resolution (yes i'll group them for now)"
Soundstage
I would say no MAJOR differences between the three.
Z1R biggest, widest and best depth (i can hear the singer moving some meters away from me when switching). And the overall space is bigger
Utopia and VE8 no major differences, i think that the Utopia is more in head when it comes to width, but a little bith deeper (singer a few more centimeters
in front)
Bass
Utopia has the least impact of them all, clear difference on some songs (depending on bass track), "Missing" som subbass.
However the utopia have best definition and separation of the three.
I would actually say that except for the lowest subbass the z1r and VE8 sounds similar.
The VE8 seems tothave have a bit more separation and definition in the bass than the z1r but need more comparison..
Separation/definition/resolution
The Utopia has the best separation and resolution of the instruments, but also sounds a little brighter than the others, and the "lack" of bass also makes it a bit different sounding.
Switching from the VE8 from the utopias, the first few seconds they sound a bit muffled, then you startsto appreciate the bass and that the resolution and separation of the instruments is there it's just not as extreme as the utopia.
The z1r adds a warmth overall so it sounds like it has a bit less separation and resolution, however, hard to explain it's there but smooth..
I would say that the VE8 has similarities to the Z1R bass, the Utopia soundstage, and somewhere in between with regards to the resolution and separation.
The Utopia is the brightest sounding, the Z1R the most smooth and varm sounding and the VE8 somewhere in-between (but closer to the utopia).
This is just from a short comparison, and it's how i hear things so... Might be revised later but for now..
All balanced from my wm1z
Note: Silver cable for the utopia, Silver+gold for the VE8, original copper cable for the z1r.
Unfortunately i din't have a different 4.4mm for the utopias, think they would benefit from a copper or copper gold..
Edit: Just did some further comparison between the z1r and VE8 and i find them quite alike except for the z1r being smoother (little more dark), with a bigger soundstage, especially depth.
The VE8 when listening a bit more seems to have more height but since the depth is smaller it still makes the soundstage seem less big compared to the z1r..
Fun to compare, more will come.
And also a disclaimer this is almost like comparing oranges and apples but still...
I'm actually getting more and more impressed with the z1r compared to the utopia when comparing. The z1r is notn100% neutral but it's fun. Also the fact that the VE8 can keep up quite well in the soundstage area is very interesting. It's also quite easy to adapt to switching between the VE8 and the z1r, the utopia need more adjustment since the sound signature differs more (less bass, brighter, faster,etc) .
With the utopias i often start to analyze the music, with the z1r and ve8 i foremost enjoy and dig the music but have the possibility to analyze, not to say that i don't enjoy my utopias but I think you get the difference
Also starting to think that the XIV that is on it's way (shipped yesterday), will be more closer to the utopia than the VE8 is, based on the reviews i've read.