ThanatosVI
Headphoneus Supremus
I use the Loki on all my headphones.Do you find yourself using the Loki on the upper tier planars you cited, or just the lower tier stuff like the 4XX?
Can the Loki reduce as well as boost?
It can also reduce.
I use the Loki on all my headphones.Do you find yourself using the Loki on the upper tier planars you cited, or just the lower tier stuff like the 4XX?
Can the Loki reduce as well as boost?
wait till you mod them. I have some listed in the sig that will transform the m1060c and M1060.I have been a dedicated dynamic driver guy since I started this hobby nearly 8 years ago, and never considered planars. I listened to an expensive set one time a few years back (Mr. Speakers I think?) but wasn't really impressed -- too smooth, too big, too heavy. I was on a quest for as much detail and realism as possible. But once I achieved the near pinnacle of detail & tonal balance last year (in the form of the Focal Clear), something in me changed and I started to wonder whether I might be ready to give the cozy clarity of planars another try -- a real try this time -- just for a change of scenery. So I took a (small) gamble and got a set of Monoprice M1060C a few weeks ago and to put it simply: my whole headphone perspective has been turned on end. I just love this sound and can't stop listening to these things! I don't know whether it's the planar sound in general that I'm digging so much, or the M1060C in particular. But knowing these are far from high end, I can't help but wonder about what delights await a tier or two up. (The reviews of the Audeze LCD-2C (Classic) really got my attention, for example.)
Anyway, I highly recommend anyone who's been curious about planars to consider giving the M1060C a try. (I mean they're just $250 for Tyll's sake!)
wait till you mod them. I have some listed in the sig that will transform the m1060c and M1060.
I don't know about rtings but here is a Post showing the frequency response of the LCD 2When I look at the measurements of many planars on RTINGS.COM they seem to measure low i.e. -4 db to -8 db from 80 hz to 20 hz. How does that reconcile with the "planar bass" that many say are a strength of planars? Or is there an issue with the way RTINGS does the bass measurement?
Here is the Audeze LCD-2C: https://www.rtings.com/headphones/1-4/graph#691/4039
It's compensated. Look at the raw measurements. You basicly want a bit boosted bass to sound good and not sound lowered.When I look at the measurements of many planars on RTINGS.COM they seem to measure low i.e. -4 db to -8 db from 80 hz to 20 hz. How does that reconcile with the "planar bass" that many say are a strength of planars? Or is there an issue with the way RTINGS does the bass measurement?
Here is the Audeze LCD-2C: https://www.rtings.com/headphones/1-4/graph#691/4039
Thanks for pointing that out - I didn't realize the graphs were compensated. I just re-read their testing methodology and now I understand how the compensation / target curve is applied. Makes sense now.It's compensated. Look at the raw measurements. You basicly want a bit boosted bass to sound good and not sound lowered.
Yup You still want a good bass. Solid, fast and not disorted. See some of the high end closed back planar headphone measurements. Someone may disagree but I like to hear frequency response flat. But sometimes it may confuse because the energy on the bass and it can make u feel that the bass is lifted.Thanks for pointing that out - I didn't realize the graphs were compensated. I just re-read their testing methodology and now I understand how the compensation / target curve is applied. Makes sense now.
Send me a rig and instructions.Some plots of the C version would be nice.
Planars, in my experience can vary in “signature” to a degree, but not as much as dynamic. However one thing I find, is they are all clear, very little grain, with a good holographic image. As for a general signature.... no not really, greatly depends on who makes them.Is there actually a general 'planar' or 'dynamic' sound signature?
I personally find that there is much more variation within different planars and dynamics than across planars vs dynamics. For example a bright Hifiman sounds nothing like a warm Audeze, whereas a warm Sennheiser dynamic sounds somewhat like a warm Audeze planar...?
i was slow too, took a t50rp, a he-400, and a EL-8 to be sold. Those plus the isine 10 and the LCD-2F all whip every dynamic I have overall.It looks like you are converted faster than me
Planars, in my experience can vary in “signature” to a degree, but not as much as dynamic. However one thing I find, is they are all clear, very little grain, with a good holographic image. As for a general signature.... no not really, greatly depends on who makes them.
i was slow too, took a t50rp, a he-400, and a EL-8 to be sold. Those plus the isine 10 and the LCD-2F all whip every dynamic I have overall.
Planars, in my experience can vary in “signature” to a degree, but not as much as dynamic. However one thing I find, is they are all clear, very little grain, with a good holographic image. As for a general signature.... no not really, greatly depends on who makes them.