ONKYO DP-X1 | Dual Sabre Dacs | Balanced | Sabre BTL Amp | MQA | DSD 256 | Android 5 |
Mar 19, 2017 at 3:28 AM Post #14,086 of 16,326
Again for peoples who want to use poweramp V3 first you need to be rooted the best way is to use the method from damex much better than king root you need to change the original recovery and replace it with Twrp from that you can just flash supersu http://www.head-fi.org/t/780642/onkyo-dp-x1-dual-sabre-dacs-balanced-sabre-btl-amp-mqa-dsd-256-android-5/11130#post_12834357

Ok you are rooted you need to download a file explorer I am using Es file explorer you give it root access you open home Device system go to build prop look for
ro.product.manufacturer=O&P Innovations change O&P Innovations by  Meizu save it here you need root
after this go to home devices system etc  add a file name it audio_hifi.conf and the trick is to give it RW permissions in ES according to the pic and you should good to to go

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The audio_hifi. Conf should be created in the etc folder.
Anyways, thanks for the detailed instructions.
Now using newest poweramp v3 704 with the hd support.
With my heir 10.0 and whiplash balanced cable, the new poweramp provides a much bigger sound stage compare to the stock player.
It's a blast to hear different sound with the dp-x1!
 
Mar 19, 2017 at 12:33 PM Post #14,088 of 16,326
Hello. Have tried today Tidal for the first time on my X1. And it is terrible. Terrible hiss. It sounds like an analog FM tuner... It is dead silent with the stock player and so terrible with offline Tidal. What's the problem?
 
Mar 19, 2017 at 12:50 PM Post #14,090 of 16,326
   Courtesy of XVortex, a link to the most recent stock firmware for Onkyo / Pioneer (0.1.37.8_20161104.013642)
https://android.googleapis.com/packages/ota/onkyo_raizin32_raizin32/1295292967f8c11f806630c670f0d2b3e0189588.zip

Thx! xD
 
Some One try it DAMEX method on XDP-100R???
 
I don't want Break my DAP.... xD
 
My XDP-100R is Japon Version with ROM STOCK:
0.1.37.8_20161104.021906
Android 5.1.1
Kernel: 3.4.0 Fri Nov4 CST 2016
 
 
 
About Viper:
http://vipersaudio.com/blog/?page_id=28
It Works with CPU, but ALL the PROBLEM is here, all sofware other (PowerAmp, AIMP3, Foobar...)  that PLAYER STOCKdon't Works with DAC hardware but Only CPU, and Sound bad (noise background, no dynamic....).
 
Mar 19, 2017 at 1:23 PM Post #14,091 of 16,326
Hello. Have tried today Tidal for the first time on my X1. And it is terrible. Terrible hiss. It sounds like an analog FM tuner... It is dead silent with the stock player and so terrible with offline Tidal. What's the problem?


Used tidal for over 8 months, no hiss. Should be other reason.
 
Mar 19, 2017 at 1:26 PM Post #14,092 of 16,326
  Thx! xD
 
Some One try it DAMEX method on XDP-100R???
 
I don't want Break my DAP.... xD
 
My XDP-100R is Japon Version with ROM STOCK:
0.1.37.8_20161104.021906
Android 5.1.1
Kernel: 3.4.0 Fri Nov4 CST 2016
 
 
 
About Viper:
http://vipersaudio.com/blog/?page_id=28
It Works with CPU, but ALL the PROBLEM is here, all sofware other (PowerAmp, AIMP3, Foobar...)  that PLAYER STOCKdon't Works with DAC hardware but Only CPU, and Sound bad (noise background, no dynamic....).


from PC kingo root did it
 
Mar 19, 2017 at 5:00 PM Post #14,093 of 16,326
power amp
The audio_hifi. Conf should be created in the etc folder.
Anyways, thanks for the detailed instructions.
Now using newest poweramp v3 704 with the hd support.
With my heir 10.0 and whiplash balanced cable, the new poweramp provides a much bigger sound stage compare to the stock player.
It's a blast to hear different sound with the dp-x1!


just a heads up, using poweramp (even the test version with the Meizu hack) If you go into sounds settings and turn OFF the EQ. TONE and LIMIT you will notice quite a change in the audio output. Makes it seem like its still using the qualcomm dac, for some reason. Not saying don't use it, as the amp section of the device is awesome even through the qualcomm dac, but it just seems that the stock music app is better in regards to the ESS DAC implementation.


About Viper:
http://vipersaudio.com/blog/?page_id=28
It Works with CPU, but ALL the PROBLEM is here, all sofware other (PowerAmp, AIMP3, Foobar...)  that PLAYER STOCKdon't Works with DAC hardware but Only CPU, and Sound bad (noise background, no dynamic....).


Viper is awesome, but isn't it locked at 24/48...hence all those hi res files (24/92. 24/192 , DSD, and all in between) will be downsampled?
 
Mar 19, 2017 at 5:09 PM Post #14,094 of 16,326
power amp
just a heads up, using poweramp (even the test version with the Meizu hack) If you go into sounds settings and turn OFF the EQ. TONE and LIMIT you will notice quite a change in the audio output. Makes it seem like its still using the qualcomm dac, for some reason. Not saying don't use it, as the amp section of the device is awesome even through the qualcomm dac, but it just seems that the stock music app is better in regards to the ESS DAC implementation.
Viper is awesome, but isn't it locked at 24/48...hence all those hi res files (24/92. 24/192 , DSD, and all in between) will be downsampled?

 
Thx you for Answer. xD
 
But the Problem is with XDp-100R Pioneer:
-Only STOP PLAYER use DAC HARDWARE (Sabre), all other players use CPU (Foobar/AIMP3/PowerAmp...)
I see BIG difference with my Shure SE535, at low Volume I have noise backround, no Dynbamic, qualité Average....
With Player Stock Super quality! xD
 
But majority users don't see difference between PowerAmp (in CPU Sofware Mod) and Stock Player (Hardware Mode)..... xD
 
 
So Are you Sure Viper Use DAC HARDWARE???
My Phone ZenPhone Read 192Khz, player at 30e Read 192Khz, it is not quality... xD
 
Mar 19, 2017 at 5:12 PM Post #14,095 of 16,326
So Are you Sure Viper Use DAC HARDWARE???
My Phone ZenPhone Read 192Khz, player at 30e Read 192Khz, it is not quality... xD

I dont think "anyone" is sure at the moment on what DAC poweramp test beta is using :lol:...Just turn off the audio settings (to eliminate the stock poweramp boost), play one song back to back, in the STOCK app and then poweramp beta (with the meizu hack) and you will notice quite a large audio output difference.

Seems an odd issue on many levels. I too prefer poweramp as a front end, though
 
Mar 19, 2017 at 5:15 PM Post #14,096 of 16,326
I think now ONLY Stock PLAYER can use the Hardware in DAP.... xD
 
Fioo X5III, IbassoDX200, XDP-100R....
 
All works with ONLY ONE Player. xD
 
May-be other Players can't devellop Drivers specific, Manufacturer don't want Give Drivers at Other may be.... xD
 
 
I buy Android DAP for Choice my Sofware, but not possible..... xD
But no problem if the Player Works.... xD
But, Now I question me About Android if it is Useful or not.... xD
 
 
May be it is a Good Choice because Pioneer and Other don't devellop a OS, so price is Better.... xD
They devellop ONLY Players....
On Other DAP a New OS is necessary, so Study, Cost,.... xD
 
Mar 19, 2017 at 5:25 PM Post #14,097 of 16,326

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