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ONKYO DP-X1 | Dual Sabre Dacs | Balanced | Sabre BTL Amp | MQA | DSD 256 | Android 5 |

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by t.r.a.n.c.e., Sep 11, 2015.
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  1. PoRidge
     
    how can you be sure? onkyo modded the os to do this? i did not find it, even in the onkyo presentation.
     
    fiio specifically states that they did.
     
  2. mrhizzo
    Anyone know how can I buy this cover from Amazon Japan? http://www.amazon.co.jp/バンナイズ-VanNuys-ONKYO-Pioneer-XDP-100R/dp/B018RXI1PM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1452680750&sr=8-3&keywords=onkyo+dp-x1
     
  3. PoRidge
     
    in some chinese "hifi" android phones, there are options(implemented as a whitelist) to choose which app goes through the hifi DAC. so definitely onkyo has the control. that's why i say that they MAY need onkyo's permission.
     
  4. ezekiel77
     
    Off-topic, but could you please name a few phones that implements the whitelist? I've been looking for a cellphone with a hifi DAC which can be used for Spotify/Tidal. No luck so far with Vivo phones and LG V10.
     
  5. Sonic Defender Contributor
    That wouldn't prove it is using the DAC at all, Neutron sounds stunning on my phone and based on what you are saying Blackberry sure wouldn't have opened up their OS so I would have to assume that this is DSP through the CPU. Why would MMX be any different? If Android provides an interface to the audio so that MMX can access the DAC on the DP-X1 why can't other programs such as Neutron? What exactly is the fundamental difference between them?
     
  6. Sonic Defender Contributor
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    Balanced cable for my PM3 and DP-X1. Thanks PETEREK!
     
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  7. Whitigir
    Nice cables above.
    Both Gonemad and jet audio sounds just fine on Zx2 which is running android 4.2 .....why dp-x1 and android 5.1 couldn't do it
     
  8. TheOneInYellow

    Multiple tests by Head-Fi'ers on here.

    Peter from Double Helix Cables tested Android games and streaming apps.

    The only time when an internal DAC of an Android OS is not used is if the app in question bypasses it deliberately (aka Neutron).

    Most app designer's will design apps that have audio to be passed to Android, which should pass to a DAC.
    This is the standard, has been for a very long time.

    Onkyo only modded the OS to implement brand new System Wide features, but these are defeatable if an App was coded to bypass standard Android audio routes, or if a designer who knows of the features can create code to bypass.
     
  9. TheOneInYellow

    I am very sorry that my multiple posts, explanations, other Head-Fi'ers, have failed to help you understand.

    I hope you'll enjoy the DP-X1 has is.
     
  10. badwisdom
    can't hear distortions with third party player apps. What i am hearing for ? :)
     
  11. PoRidge
    i mean, how can you prove that it is the sabre dac doing the decoding and not the codec of the snapdragon? open it up and probe signals from both the sabre dac and snapdragon codec? even when the sabre dac is on does not mean it is doing the decoding.
     
  12. Whitigir
    Lol.....probe?
     
  13. Sonic Defender Contributor
    Removed comment, all good now.
     
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  14. PoRidge
    good for you, but there are people that's annoyed.
     
    i personally did not find a dap that's without background hiss, even the dx90 and l5 pro on ultra low gain. it limits my choice of dap, so i had high hopes for the onkyo.
     
  15. Whitigir

    I am started to get annoy by zx2 background noises now...lol....turning toward Onkyo and see atm
     
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