ONKYO DP-X1 | Dual Sabre Dacs | Balanced | Sabre BTL Amp | MQA | DSD 256 | Android 5 |

[mrhizzo]

Anyone have the Lotoo Paw Gold and the Onkyo DP-X1 to compare about the sound quality?

 

[Subhakar]

T5p is a fantastic isolating headphone. Also check the 1770 - it cant run balanced but its sound and isolation is also good. The T1 is an open design.

DT 1770 is fantastic SQ in SE (of my Oppo HA-2) and seem to be on par, if not better than T5p, first gen Tesla. Haven't received DP-X1 to give ideas on synergy but I have no doubt it will sound great. Not much further amping required than DP-X1's own despite the headphone's 250 ohm impedance, thanks to Tesla 2.0 fastness of coil, I guess.
 
But DT 1770 comes with 3-pin mini-XLR cable - modding it into 4-core balanced headphone could be a tedious job, not to mention the effective nulling of warranty. I just want to say that the sweetness of DP-X1's SE output in combination with the very effective DT 1770 should be great enough for one to abandon the idea of modding the 1770 and look for a different headphone to exploit the riches of DP-X1's balanced out. Don't mess up with a good marriage. Just get another bride for the other home.

 

[TheOneInYellow]

OK

OK

Pushed the button, you know it makes sense 

Muhahahahahahaha!




Did you go for fast shipping?

Did you buy any accessories too (DPA-GL033 tempered glass screen protector and/or DPA-PUX1 leather case)?

 

[Subhakar]

  Consider the PM3. Awesome sound signature, balanced ready at the cup, extremely comfortable, well made, great looking and easy to drive.

+1
"Balanced-ready at the cup".
And $200 cheaper than DT 1770 and more non-neutral fun.

 

[Zenifyx]

Did you try Gonemad ? Or jet audio ? Thanks

 
I just tested out both of those players, simply to test if the firmware update fixed those issues.
Both had noticeable distortion on the test track.
This is with the most recent firmware update dated 21 Dec (under device information).
 
In other thoughts, its quite interesting that the product brand on the device is set as "O & P Innovations"
And idk why they decided to put a persistent google search bar on the default launcher -- it's probably never gonna get used, I've got my phone for that.
The launcher changes background based on current album artwork tho, that's pretty uniquely cool.

 

[Whitigir]

Ghost...those players improved my Zx2 sound quality ...but not dp-x1 ? Dang it lol....wow...thank you anyways

 

[Subhakar]

Nope. T1.2. The AK version is 32 ohms, even comes with a 2.5 trrs cable to use with AK daps!

I would not for the life of me ever recommend the t5p

beyer just released T5p 2nd GEN 32 ohm (a non-AK version). Seems to be as good as AK version and quite unlike T5p 1st GEN when it comes to bass-shyness. And, detachable cable. And, optional balanced cable, although, ending with 4-pin XLR.

 

[Amsterdam]

  Hey guys,
 
received it this morning !!! Its quite a stunning piece for the price. Impressions later. However, anyone using this on a mac ? I can't see a way to transfer music

https://www.android.com/filetransfer/

 

[badwisdom]

Anyone have the Lotoo Paw Gold and the Onkyo DP-X1 to compare about the sound quality?

I have the DP-X1 and receiving the Lotoo PG next monday. Will try and give you some comparaisons asap.

 

[badwisdom]

   
Lucky you mine is stuck at customs since monday morning I am on the phone with Chronopost
44€ includes 21€ of fees from Chronopost, not such a rip off.
 
I ordered last wednesday and it shipped friday arrived monday but now stuck (
 
Should have gone Fedex as I usually do

Sorry to hear that, Chronopost is really hit and miss. I avoid them like the plague. Guess i was just lucky.

And paying 50% tax and fees is a huge rip off in my book, even though the total bill is way lower than the expected EU retail price.

 

[badwisdom]

   
When did yours arrive?
 
I have confirmation my package is held by customs and I should get a call today... arhhh
I suspect I won't get them this week and on top of that going to be pricey.
Definitely go Fedex next time.

This morning. I caught the Chronopost guy wile taking the kids out, otherwise i would have gotten a blue slip in my letterbox. Very lucky

 

[davidmolliere]

This morning. I caught the Chronopost guy wile taking the kids out, otherwise i would have gotten a blue slip in my letterbox. Very lucky

 
Must have arrived almost at the same time in Roissy then... unlucky me...

 

[Gaghiel]

●2016/1/13
　更新予定システム
　　・DP-X1
　アップデート後のソフトウェアバージョン
　 ・SW version：0.1.26.2
　アップデート内容
　　・起動時間が長くなってしまう件の修正
 
http://www.jp.onkyo.com/support/audiovisual/dap_soft/dpx1.htm
 
Google translate: modification of Ken update content and (fixed?) start-up time becomes longer.
 
Anyone can confirm the change log translation? 

 

[TheOneInYellow]

This morning. I caught the Chronopost guy wile taking the kids out, otherwise i would have gotten a blue slip in my letterbox. Very lucky

AWW YEAH!

 

[PoRidge]

about the cpu and dac thing....

if you are talking about the cpu, of course they don't have dac inside. but the snapdragon is an SOC we are talking about.SOC(system on chip) is a system of its own and can incorperate many things including cpu, memory, codec. and for this snapdragon soc, you can definitely find past news or materials advertising its use of a new audio codec. audio codec does encoding(adc) and decoding(dac). this is the general fact.

but in the onkyo case, since it is a specialised device, it COULD be using a striped down custom version of the snapdragong. PROBABLY removing the codec block. there is no materail confirming this.

but considering the terrible job the dac does when playing on 3rd party apps, i am leaning towards that it uses the codec instead of the sabre dac. it is very very rare to mess up in the digital part(except android SRC) of the signal path, so most likely the conversion part should take the blame? the sabre dacs do a good job with the stock player. so we have to blame the hypothetical snapdragon codec, or the android src.