[StanD]

  My next voyage is to try to better understand what I'm hearing, in relation to design and engineering.
 
I agree with 90% of what you say - I also know I heard a difference between Magni 2 and Magni 2 Uber. The Uber does not tire my ears, whereas the regular did. I'm particularly sensitive to some sounds - like when the plasma TV has too much white, or a transformer starts to make sounds after being plugged in for a few years, or when the fridge turns on a room away, or the birds and insects start to get carried away with their chirping and buzzing outside.
 
There are many, more expensive amplifiers, I simply could not stand for long either - WA7 with the original solid state power supply, Audeze Deckard, Oppo HA-1. When I speak of liking the Magni 2 Uber, I mean this in relation to products such as the Schiit Ragnarok, Cavalli Liquid Carbon, DNA Sonett 2, Simaudio Moon NEO 230HAD, etc. There's simply a certainly cleanliness that I need to have first, before I can sit down to listen to something for many hours on end. The Magni 2 Uber has this. In my recollection, when I owned it the Magni 2 did not.

Recollection is a funny thing. Often I bring up the limitation of human echoic memory, it lasts for a few seconds. You might try getting an A/B switch so you can compare the same set of headphones between two volume matched Amps on a short loop of music. Have another person throw the switch and not let you know which Amp you are listening to. Try to hear the difference and identify which Amp, the person throwing the switch position should know. It's an interesting experience.

 

[ibbanez]

Well I just purchased the Modi2U/Magni2U stack, so I'm excited to get it in and check it out.

 

[bsodmike]

Been enjoying my setup having gotten these about a week ago. Grado RS1e sound lovely. Got the Multibit DAC and Uber amp

 

[bsodmike]

Another snap. Thanks

 

[r2muchstuff]

 
 
Evaluations underway:
I am trying to determine which combination of this stuff gives ME the best results for a portable stack and a transportable AC required kit.
 
3 Sources
iPod G7 160GB > Fostex HP-P1 
iPod G7 160GB > Cyber Labs AlgoRhythem Solo R
iPod G7 160GB > Nuforce iCon iDO
 
All above have digital out and line out.
Thus - they may feed an amp directly (as transport & DAC) OR feed the Modi (as transport only) 
 
 
Schiit Modi 2 Uber 4490
 
 
4 Amps
(5 if iDO HP out is counted)
Fostex HP-P1
Fostex HP-V1
Alo RX dB - single ended
Schiit Mangi 2 Uber
 
All set to high gain.
 
 
Many combinations to try.
 
#1 - Testing Amps
 
iPod G7 160GB - Apple Lossless > iDO > coax > Modi > RCA splitter > RCA to 3.5 & RCA to RCA > Mangi & HP-V1 or RX or HP-P1 > Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro 250 ohm
 
 
Mangi = HP-V1 > RX > HP-P1
Mangi - HP-V1 have differences, however music enjoyment is the same.  RX is close, yet less.  HP-P1 last.  iDo HP out was not tested.
 
 
#2 - Testing DACs
 
iPod G7 160GB - Apple Lossless > CLAS > 3.5 to 3.5 > FiiO 4 way switch >
iPod G7 160GB - Apple Lossless > HP-P1 > 3.5 to 3.5 > FiiO 4 way switch > 
iPod G7 160GB - Apple Lossless > iDO > RCA to 3.5 > FiiO 4 way switch > 
iPod G7 160GB - Apple Lossless > iDO > coax > Modi 2 Uber > RCA to 3.5 > FiiO 4 way switch >
 
FiiO 4 way switch > 3.5 to RCA > Mangi 2 Uber > Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro 250 ohm
 
 
Modi > iDo > CLAS > HP-P1
 
Big caution - With this setup there is very little difference between the DACs - Quick switching and longer listening finally gave me some variation between the DACs.
 
With the Magni 2 Uber as the amp and DT 990 as the headphones differences were slight, other amps and headphones may change these results.
 
The Modi is a notch above the others.  The iDo/CLAS/HP=P1 are really close.
The Modi 2U and iDO are AC powered; the CLAS and HP-P1 are battery powered.
 
The Modi 2U carries more weight/fullness, clarity/details and separation, the iDO has clarity/details with separation and balance, the CLAS is natural with air and the HP-P1 has solid bass and forward mids yet less clarity and separation.
 
WARNING - this is relative to each other and these differences are very SLIGHT.
 
Overall winner = Schiit stack with iDo.
I also learned that the portable (non AC) stacks are darn good  Especially the HP-V1 amp.
 
YMMV,
r2

 

[ginetto61]

 .... When I speak of liking the Magni 2 Uber, I mean this in relation to products such as the Schiit Ragnarok, Cavalli Liquid Carbon, DNA Sonett 2, Simaudio Moon NEO 230HAD, etc.    There's simply a certainly cleanliness that I need to have first, before I can sit down to listen to something for many hours on end. The Magni 2 Uber has this. In my recollection, when I owned it the Magni 2 did not.

 
Hi and sorry to jump in again but I am very interested.
Do you mean that you have actually listened to those top amps ?  those should be quite the best available I think. 

If so I have to find a Uber immediately

Thanks again,  gino

 

[ibbanez]

Another snap. Thanks

Love it... This will have to hold me over till my setup comes this week.  But then I still have to wait another several weeks for Mass Drop for my AKG's  I may just go ahead and get my Closed back m40x's to hold me over until they arrive ;p  But until then, I will keep looking at all the pics you guys provide ;p lol

 

[ibbanez]

 
 
 
Evaluations underway:
I am trying to determine which combination of this stuff gives ME the best results for a portable stack and a transportable AC required kit.
 
3 Sources
iPod G7 160GB > Fostex HP-P1 
iPod G7 160GB > Cyber Labs AlgoRhythem Solo R
iPod G7 160GB > Nuforce iCon iDO
 
All above have digital out and line out.
Thus - they may feed an amp directly (as transport & DAC) OR feed the Modi (as transport only) 
 
 
Schiit Modi 2 Uber 4490
 
 
4 Amps
(5 if iDO HP out is counted)
Fostex HP-P1
Fostex HP-V1
Alo RX dB - single ended
Schiit Mangi 2 Uber
 
All set to high gain.
 
 
Many combinations to try.
 
#1 - Testing Amps
 
iPod G7 160GB - Apple Lossless > iDO > coax > Modi > RCA splitter > RCA to 3.5 & RCA to RCA > Mangi & HP-V1 or RX or HP-P1 > Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro 250 ohm
 
 
Mangi = HP-V1 > RX > HP-P1
Mangi - HP-V1 have differences, however music enjoyment is the same.  RX is close, yet less.  HP-P1 last.  iDo HP out was not tested.
 
 
#2 - Testing DACs
 
iPod G7 160GB - Apple Lossless > CLAS > 3.5 to 3.5 > FiiO 4 way switch >
iPod G7 160GB - Apple Lossless > HP-P1 > 3.5 to 3.5 > FiiO 4 way switch > 
iPod G7 160GB - Apple Lossless > iDO > RCA to 3.5 > FiiO 4 way switch > 
iPod G7 160GB - Apple Lossless > iDO > coax > Modi 2 Uber > RCA to 3.5 > FiiO 4 way switch >
 
FiiO 4 way switch > 3.5 to RCA > Mangi 2 Uber > Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro 250 ohm
 
 
Modi > iDo > CLAS > HP-P1
 
Big caution - With this setup there is very little difference between the DACs - Quick switching and longer listening finally gave me some variation between the DACs.
 
With the Magni 2 Uber as the amp and DT 990 as the headphones differences were slight, other amps and headphones may change these results.
 
The Modi is a notch above the others.  The iDo/CLAS/HP=P1 are really close.
The Modi 2U and iDO are AC powered; the CLAS and HP-P1 are battery powered.
 
The Modi 2U carries more weight/fullness, clarity/details and separation, the iDO has clarity/details with separation and balance, the CLAS is natural with air and the HP-P1 has solid bass and forward mids yet less clarity and separation.
 
WARNING - this is relative to each other and these differences are very SLIGHT.
 
Overall winner = Schiit stack with iDo.
I also learned that the portable (non AC) stacks are darn good  Especially the HP-V1 amp.
 
YMMV,
r2

Well DAMN.....  You have so much awesome stuff there ;p

 

[fritz1234]

I just got a Magni 2
 
I'm happy with it. Seems to have very good S/N, and is powerful. Weird AC/AC adapter. No swapping that sucker out.
 
I was initially looking at the Fiio K5 because I have a E17 (that i don't use all that much). Glad I bought this though. I'm sure the K5 is fine, but I don't want to use the E17 all the time. Also, I don't like how no one has seen the insides. I like the porn. 
 
I may go through the whole upgrade insanity later. Maybe next year. I want to put a few miles on this one.

 

[ibbanez]

Hey guys, I just got my Schiit Stack and I love it.  Now, I have to wait for my first real headset come in, the AKG k7xx from Massdrop, which apparently will be here next Thursday.  But for now, the Cloud II's (aka Takstar Prod80)....  But for now, here is a sneak peak....
 

 

 

[HC Over Lambda]

Do the clouds benefit much from amping?

 

[ibbanez]

You know, I honestly wasn't expecting much, since I'm returning them to Best Buy this week, since my AKG's are coming in, but I had to try and OMG YES they benefit greatly.  Now, I am new to all of this, but lets say that even those they are low end headphones, they sound phenomenal through this setup.  I hear so much separation compared to my old life of blah audio ;p   I was using the supplied usb/dac that comes with the cloud II's, so that could be why the big jump in audio quality.  With the stock usb/dac, I could never crank it up to ear hurting levels, but it was so so level.  With the Schiit Stack 2 Uber, I can CRANK it up.  These cans actually sound pretty ok, but I'm a noob and this is my first real pair until my others come next week.  Hope this helps.

 

[zoozilla]

Maybe this is a stupid question, but I'm in Japan and looking at the Modi 2 Uber.
 
Would I be fine with the US Plug AC adapter?

 

[killeraxemannic]

  Maybe this is a stupid question, but I'm in Japan and looking at the Modi 2 Uber.
 
Would I be fine with the US Plug AC adapter?

 
I am not an expert but.... The power adapter that comes with the Modi 2 USA says Input of 120V AC 60HZ on it. I would assume that if you bought the Modi 2 you could use a high quality power adapter from your country that puts out 16V, 500mA which is what the input of the Modi 2 wants. Schiit also has a few options on their site for UK, Australia etc which are 230V. Not sure what the power spec is in Japan. 

 

[jnak00]

Maybe this is a stupid question, but I'm in Japan and looking at the Modi 2 Uber.

Would I be fine with the US Plug AC adapter?

I've used North American electronics in Japan with no problem. Japan is 100v. If you want to be sure, you can contact Schiit support