Official Ipod Video / Classic 5g+5.5g+6g+6.5g+7g SSD Mod thread

[Imod]

   
 

Very similar to what happened to me (though I have not rockboxed it).  What I found worked was to leave the ipod on the computers usb charge until the first red bar (this will take at least a couple of hours, or it did on my mac mini anyway).  Then I swopped it over onto the wall charger and left it over night where it gave it a full charge whilst remaining cool to the touch.  If you simply put it on the wall charger chances are that it will get very warm to the touch but not really charge it.

This is weird since it has the 2000mAh battery and while it was building the database the battery icon showed almost full. But then again it could be the cause since I loaded the 39GB of music just before building the database without using the firewire cable but just plugged in the USB port of the computer. 

 

[nahk]

   
Does it leave more space for the battery than the adaptor solution?  Am wondering if it would allow an even larger battery than the 2000mah one (i.e. the 2600mah one).
 

 
It's the same size as original HDD, 5mm thick. I think 2000mah battery will only fit with thick back cover. Although, the SSD circuit itself seems to be just wrapped into plastic case, which has few screws on it, so you probably can remove the case and get some more space.
 

   
Be very interesting to compare battery life with tarkan's findings.  What battery are you using now?
 

 
I'm using new nilliamps battery but of standard capacity (which is 580mah for my 160gb slim). I'm not sure how Tarkan tested it his battery life, but I'm doing 3/4 of the volume with stock in-ear headphones. It has a bit more than half left after 17 hours of playing and some fast forwarding that I periodically did.
 

   
It doesn't seem impossible that it would take more than one go for itunes to properly prepare the disk the first time round.
 

 
What do you mean? Before plugging the drive in - I formatted it into FAT32. And comparing to mSATA solution - it doesn't drain that much power during the write - it was in fact able to charge to full while syncing. So that red cross is still confusing. I'll do few more syncs to see if I can repro, and if I can - will fallback to SDXC solution.

 

[ThinWalls]

   
It's the same size as original HDD, 5mm thick. I think 2000mah battery will only fit with thick back cover. Although, the SSD circuit itself seems to be just wrapped into plastic case, which has few screws on it, so you probably can remove the case and get some more space.
 
 
I'm using new nilliamps battery but of standard capacity (which is 580mah for my 160gb slim). I'm not sure how Tarkan tested it his battery life, but I'm doing 3/4 of the volume with stock in-ear headphones. It has a bit more than half left after 17 hours of playing and some fast forwarding that I periodically did.
 
 
What do you mean? Before plugging the drive in - I formatted it into FAT32. And comparing to mSATA solution - it doesn't drain that much power during the write - it was in fact able to charge to full while syncing. So that red cross is still confusing. I'll do few more syncs to see if I can repro, and if I can - will fallback to SDXC solution.

What I was trying to say about battery was - with the thick back cover and non-native SSD with adaptor, one can fit a 2000mah battery - but possibly with a thick back cover and your native SSD (which presumably is thinner) one could fit the larger 2600mah battery, hence even better battery life.
 
As for the initial red-cross - I was just thinking in terms of what often seems to happen with installing things on computers - for some obsure reason it requires a restart before it can properly set things up - it doesn't necessarily mean there's a serious problem.  It still sounds promising.

 

[davidcotton]

 
This is weird since it has the 2000mAh battery and while it was building the database the battery icon showed almost full. But then again it could be the cause since I loaded the 39GB of music just before building the database without using the firewire cable but just plugged in the USB port of the computer. 

If it's any consolation I've just tried rockboxing mine on a windows laptop with a full battery (had it on charge since friday, and not used it)and the batterys seemed to have pretty much drained almost straight away.  For playback it's fine but any odd activity seems to drain the battery pdq.  Guess that's the reason so many people are starting to use the firewire/usb combo to do anything (mines just the 256 drive and 850 mah battery).

 

[Imod]

 
If it's any consolation I've just tried rockboxing mine on a windows laptop with a full battery (had it on charge since friday, and not used it)and the batterys seemed to have pretty much drained almost straight away.  For playback it's fine but any odd activity seems to drain the battery pdq.  Guess that's the reason so many people are starting to use the firewire/usb combo to do anything (mines just the 256 drive and 850 mah battery).

I just put another fully charged battery in the iPod and that didn't solve the problem. I put the 2000mAh battery in another iPod and it shows that it's fully charged. Now I'm starting to panic...

 

[sweex]

  What I was trying to say about battery was - with the thick back cover and non-native SSD with adaptor, one can fit a 2000mah battery - but possibly with a thick back cover and your native SSD (which presumably is thinner) one could fit the larger 2600mah battery, hence even better battery life.
 
As for the initial red-cross - I was just thinking in terms of what often seems to happen with installing things on computers - for some obsure reason it requires a restart before it can properly set things up - it doesn't necessarily mean there's a serious problem.  It still sounds promising.

I thought the reseller of the 2600mAh battery sold it with a thicker cover than the thick back cover to leave enough space for it.

 

[sweex]

 
I just put another fully charged battery in the iPod and that didn't solve the problem. I put the 2000mAh battery in another iPod and it shows that it's fully charged. Now I'm starting to panic...

I have not fully confirmed it but I have the impression that whenever I load some new music to my iPod (rockboxed it with emCore) rockbox won't boot. Usually it helps loading the fallback image and constructing the database there. Sometimes it takes a second time but usually after that I'm able to boot in rockbox again and I just have to rebuild my database. It is not ideal but then again I don't think it is easy to build 3rd party software for closed hardware.
 
Edit: sorry about the double post, forgot to edit the first one.

 

[DMinor]

 
I just put another fully charged battery in the iPod and that didn't solve the problem. I put the 2000mAh battery in another iPod and it shows that it's fully charged. Now I'm starting to panic...

 
I believe the 1TB was corrupted or locked due to the process you were trying to build the DB. My suggestion is to avoid building DB given the 1TB size of the drive and the limited buffer of the board.
 
If nothing you have tried works, then you may need to restore or reformat it thru motherboard. If you have been following this thread particularly dr408517's posts, you know what that means. 
 
With a 5.5g, loading that 1TB to full via USB could be very challenging if not impossible. To my knowledge no one has yet confirmed to be able to fully load the 1TB via USB only. On the other hand, a 5g with that 1TB can be fully loaded via motherboard flawlessly and quickly. 

 

[Imod]

 
I have not fully confirmed it but I have the impression that whenever I load some new music to my iPod (rockboxed it with emCore) rockbox won't boot. Usually it helps loading the fallback image and constructing the database there. Sometimes it takes a second time but usually after that I'm able to boot in rockbox again and I just have to rebuild my database. It is not ideal but then again I don't think it is easy to build 3rd party software for closed hardware.
 
Edit: sorry about the double post, forgot to edit the first one.

I can't do anything. The iPod shows the sad face.

 

[0rpheu]

 
I can't do anything. The iPod shows the sad face.

Try accessing the msata + adapter using a zif to USB adapter, i use it with zif hdd's, run an error check and sometimes it mitigates the sad face problem.

 

[Stereodude]

I admit to not reading the entire thread, but in my reading of quite a bit some things arent clear to me. What causes the mSATA corruption issue during normal use? The drive needs too much power so it starts to corrupt itself due to voltage sag before the iPod tries to power itself off with a low battery?

Also, what's the issue with loading music on the mSATA drive in the iPod? Doesn't the data transfer cable also charge the iPod?

Does the SDXC to CF with Tarkan CF adapter have the same two issues?

 

[originalsnuffy]

My ipod 5.5 g with the tarkan cf sd adapter has evolved to a mode where I can only successfully transfer files to the 256gb pny card when using stock firmware 1.3. When in rockbox transfers freeze. About 90 percent of the drive is used. I recently went back to the last official release of rockbox. I had tried the beyond wind revisions and also the latest beta rev of rockbox


Any thoughts about what may be going on ?

 

[ThinWalls]

 
I thought the reseller of the 2600mAh battery sold it with a thicker cover than the thick back cover to leave enough space for it.

 
I'm not 100% sure you are wrong without double-checking it, but my understanding was he sold it with his own msata solution which left more space than Tarkan's (but which only went up to 128gb).  The cover, I thought, was the normal 'thick' cover.
(I've acutally been thinking it would be nice if someone did make a slightly thicker cover as that would allow more options, but I don't think that's what that guy does)

 

[cmarti]

My ipod 5.5 g with the tarkan cf sd adapter has evolved to a mode where I can only successfully transfer files to the 256gb pny card when using stock firmware 1.3. When in rockbox transfers freeze. About 90 percent of the drive is used. I recently went back to the last official release of rockbox. I had tried the beyond wind revisions and also the latest beta rev of rockbox


Any thoughts about what may be going on ?

The OF USB handler works much faster and consistent that the RockBox one, that has been my experience always. 

 

[sweex]

 
I can't do anything. The iPod shows the sad face.

Maybe you can dual-boot rockbox it so you can try my solution in the future? I know it's a long shot but maybe better than nothing.