Official FiiO X1 beta firmware download and discussion thread--FW1.61: added ReplayGain, and library search function

[DJScope]

Indeed you did... beat me to the press release I helped draft

Haha! Sorry for stealing your thunder.

 

[dsouza]

Hi,

Does anyone know which tags should be used with MP3 and FLAC files in order to use this new "Replay Gain" feature available in the 1.61 beta firmware?

I've enabled replay gain but it had no effect, so that's why I'm wondering some kind of tagging should be used...

Thanks!

EDIT 1: I just used AIMP3 to add replaygain tags to some MP3 files as a test. Can anyone confirm that X1 will correctly interpret this ID3V2.3 tags?

• REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_GAIN
• REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_PEAK
• REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_GAIN
• REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_PEAK

EDIT 2: I just tested adding these tags to some albums mixed with a quite low volume, and the "Replay Gain" feature in X1 still has no effect. I tried setting both "Track" and "Album", and there was no change at all in the loudness...

 

[Joe Bloggs]

Hi,

Does anyone know which tags should be used with MP3 and FLAC files in order to use this new "Replay Gain" feature available in the 1.61 beta firmware?

I've enabled replay gain but it had no effect, so that's why I'm wondering some kind of tagging should be used...

Thanks!

EDIT 1: I just used AIMP3 to add replaygain tags to some MP3 files as a test. Can anyone confirm that X1 will correctly interpret this ID3V2.3 tags?

• REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_GAIN
• REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_PEAK
• REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_GAIN
• REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_PEAK

EDIT 2: I just tested adding these tags to some albums mixed with a quite low volume, and the "Replay Gain" feature in X1 still has no effect. I tried setting both "Track" and "Album", and there was no change at all in the loudness...

Perhaps you can try using an actual Replaygain scanner, such as the one built into foobar2000?

 

[dsouza]

Perhaps you can try using an actual Replaygain scanner, such as the one built into foobar2000?

 
Well, at the end it is actually working. Let me explain:
 
I had the expectation that the quiet albums would become louder, but in fact the louder albums became more quiet...
 
The example I used above had almost no change in the loudness (it was from a low volume album). But I have another track (from a different album that was mixed louder), and it is in fact played with a lower volume when I activate the "ReplayGain" feature in X1.
 
Well, I will have to learn more about replaygain, since I was expecting it to increase the volume from quiet albums (I have to use the X1 volume almost at maximum when listening these albums with a low impedance headphone - Fidelio L2).
 

 

[dsouza]

Just an update: in fact the algorithms used by Foobar and AIMP3 to calculate the replaygain are producing different results (see below).
 
Personally I prefer AIMP3 for many reasons (I believe it is a very good player), but at this point I am not sure which one (AIMP or Foobar) to trust regarding replaygain (probably Foobar is likely the one to be trusted in this case).
 
Anyway, the good news is that firmware 1.61 is correctly observing the replaygain tags produced both by AIMP3 and Foobard2000!
 

 

[Brooko]

  Just an update: in fact the algorithms used by Foobar and AIMP3 to calculate the replaygain are producing different results (see below).
 
Personally I prefer AIMP3 for many reasons (I believe it is a very good player), but at this point I am not sure which one (AIMP or Foobar) to trust regarding replaygain (probably Foobar is likely the one to be trusted in this case).
 
Anyway, the good news is that firmware 1.61 is correctly observing the replaygain tags produced both by AIMP3 and Foobard2000!
 

 
Both of them get the peaks right, but obviously each working on a slightly different algorithm to calculate acceptable average.  Diff per album is 0.02 dB so nothing even a bat would notice. Track is 0.29 dB, so again unlikely for your ave human to really discern much if any difference.

 

[dsouza]

   
Both of them get the peaks right, but obviously each working on a slightly different algorithm to calculate acceptable average.  Diff per album is 0.02 dB so nothing even a bat would notice. Track is 0.29 dB, so again unlikely for your ave human to really discern much if any difference.

 
Yep.
 
However notice that the album diff is bigger. Foobar calculated +0.62 (positive) while AIMP3 calcualted -0.60 (negative), so the actual difference is 1.22 dB for the Album.
 
For other tracks the difference was more than 2 dB for a given track.
 
Anyway, not a big deal if the same tool is used to calculate the replaygain for the entire library... 

 

 

[Brooko]

Ah - sorry, missed that.  Very different algorithms then.

 

[DJScope]

I think it's targeting a different dB baseline.

 

[seanwee]

My exfat 64gb samsung card is not able to  be accessed , file explorer mode shows a blank list. 

 

[dsouza]

  My exfat 64gb samsung card is not able to  be accessed , file explorer mode shows a blank list. 

 
It happened to me (X1 unable to read exFAT card). But it is working now, I don't know what I did to make it work...  

 

[krasovsky]

Hello.
 
Just updated my Fiio X1 to 1.61 Beta.
Amazing! Library search! New library design and recent! Thanks!
 
But Russian translation is so bad... Many missing strings. For example there is no new ReplayGain settings. At all. But I just updated translation files and now all good. 
 
Feature request:
1. Why if I chose "Lockscreen 3" I can't use fast changing volume by long press? Because now I have a separate buttons for this!
If user chose lockscreen 1 or 2 I think he should choose the function of +/-. Long press for prev/next track, folder etc...
2. Rewind of track by using wheel!
 
P.S. Sorry for bad English.

 

[dsouza]

Is there a way to contribute to UI translation?
 
If there is interest, I am willing to provide "Portuguese (Brasil)" translation strings...

 

[Beauzooka]

Thanks to Joe & Fiio for ReplayGain. Woo Hoo!

 

[jacekplacek]

Hi,
I propose to do  scroll wheel faster like in ipod classic. The faster you rotate the scroll wheel the faster you browse music lists. I mean that if we rotate the scroll wheel slowly then you use normal speed but when you  rotate it faster then it should be double speed and/or even triply speed